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strangestgirl says:
(Sat Sep 20 22:09:57 2014 64.89.221.170) [Edit/Delete]
Howdy, folks! I have nothing
exciting to share except that I
bought a couch today. Also, I'm
binge-watching Supernatural to
catch up on Season 8 and - whenever
I'm watching many episodes of
anything in a row - I think of the
Bronze.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 20 21:32:38 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin Oohh, that's a good one!



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Maverick says:
(Sat Sep 20 21:29:29 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
Don't Leave Home Without It


Beldin: What Western Hero's Sidekick rode a Mule? Also, what is "Mr. Longears"?


Maverick


Ooh, Baby, Baby




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Beldin says:
(Sat Sep 20 20:18:20 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe aka Trivia Girl - Here's one for you gleaned from my reading.

Who was titled "The Father of the American Mule?"



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Maverick says:
(Sat Sep 20 18:34:39 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Sep 20 20:01:36 2014
OldManFan: Well, my comment was meant to be about countries of the world, but personally, for me, it held true. I think it's how you carry yourself, how many friends you have, and your line of BS. I was a small, but fat kid. I loved school so those who didn't, always wanted to hurt me; one guy in particular always wanted to "knock the living sh*t out of me" and I would assure this kid continually it was all dead. Even so, I could always make an aggressor laugh and my attitude toward actual fighting was that I was going to do as much damage as quickly as possible to them. I think they sensed I would really hurt them if they forced me to. I never had to fight. They would test me and know I did not want to fight but I was not afraid. As far as "eager" I've known guys who've taken karate who were eager, and some guys get a hold of guns and are eager to be challenged. I did not grow much; when I was in 8th grade I went out for wrestling, football, and track. For wrestling I was a pudgy 120 and was around 5'6". Guys I wrestled were thin and muscularly wiry. I took a real beating in football--I was a very small tackle; why a tackle?--it was about the only position I didn't need to be able to see very far, as I needed glasses (which I couldn't very well wear.) When I finally gave up football after my ninth grade and got a paper route, I immediately shot up to 6' (which was tall in those days) and put on 75 pounds. Fights during this period?--no, I always had friends. In college is where I learned how to carry myself--shoulders back, assured, spring in your step. When I got drafted into the Army, I thought I would have to fight at some point, especially as there were so many hillbillies (the most dangerous), Puerto Ricans, and black guys. Turns out I got along fine with everyone. One thing I learned very quickly is that you never fight over a girl. Girls will continually set up situations where you will HAVE to (usually because they themselves cannot choose.) Not worth it (them, or getting hurt.) Hillbillies will always fight over girls. In Germany, there would always be fights between blacks and whites (usually Hillbillies) over white German girls. No thanks. My statement that "you'll never have to fight" excludes psychos, of course, who maybe must fight. If you're dealing with people of normal intelligence, you won't have to. Except that I remember two drunk guys in Germany who squared off (regarding a German girl natch) and maybe had seen one too many television fights. After they each got in a good punch and realized how much it hurt, they mutually decided to discontinue their fight. Recently, I almost had to work in the city of Detroit, and I was going to get a gun (I have a concealed carry permit--perhaps another indication I think about self-protection.) You can carry yourself at full height and walk confidently (I go around 250 now and wear a 2XL shirt--I like being substantial) BUT if people are resentful because they don't have a job or are going to play the Knockout Game, etc., you may have to project a little more power. Obama and Holder are actually encouraging racial animosity. Methinks they WANT a race war.


Christopher Marlowe: Cold? Still summer till Tuesday.


Beldin: I take walks around my neighborhood in the Summer months. I say Rosaries while I walk. Last year I picked up $13.60. This year, so far, only $1.11.


Well, I was in the dollar store the other day and I broke down and bought myself a pair of 2.50X reading glasses. I wish that I had done this years ago. Give it a try.


OldManFan2: Are you saying the rights to drill are held by Scottish companies? Or are they held by British companies that, in the past, have hired Scottish workers? If Scotland separates, British companies MAY hire more British workers.


Maverick


Psycho




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 20 18:26:39 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Hmph.. Not happy. I run to do some errands and was expecting the Fedex guy to leave the packages at my door since I signed for it. I come home and nothing. I call up Fedex and apparently the gal can't even tell me if they will be making a second attempt today. If not, the soonest they will make another delivery attempt is next Tuesday.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 20 15:28:05 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin That sounds good to me!



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Beldin says:
(Sat Sep 20 15:19:59 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe - Housework this morning. And I need to mow because it rained this week. Not sure I'll get around to it though. Sometime today or tomorrow I'm going to walk; either around the neighborhood or on a trail.



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valMichael says:
(Sat Sep 20 15:19:10 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday: AngelUK, B'naa, cymru_lover, devil, faithdust, jessanne, Jocor, Krow, Lexie, samantha, SpikeMe, The Angel E, and Tralfmadore2001!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 20 15:15:20 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin It's a nice day, I'll probably head on downtown and the local park today.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 20 14:54:13 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin Have anything going on this morning?



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Beldin says:
(Sat Sep 20 14:33:13 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
Here now.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Sep 20 14:03:57 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Saturday, September 20th 2014 C.E.

We have THIRTEEN (13) Birthdays!



AngelUK
B'naa
cymru_lover
devil
faithdust
jessanne
Jocor
Krow
Lexie
samantha
SpikeMe
The Angel E
Tralfamadore2001


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
AngelUK, B'naa, cymru_lover, devil, faithdust, jessanne, Jocor, Krow, Lexie, samantha, SpikeMe, The Angel E, Tralfmadore2001!



Now, this would be the perfect time for a swear word. Kaylee, 'Jaynestown'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 20 13:54:57 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin Yeah, I was almost considering this an early Christmas gift. *g*



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Beldin says:
(Sat Sep 20 05:53:25 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe - Not as
much fun if it's not even yours.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 20 02:00:32 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin I think I solved the
mystery of the fedex packages! One
of my non-profits was having
customized stickers made for
distribution at events, and they used
my address for delivery. But I
wasn't expecting those until the
middle of next week at the earliest.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Sep 20 00:16:59 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica,

You are right. I should have said Riley offered Buffy the possibility of a bit of happiness in life but ...


WILLOW
And there's sparkage?


BUFFY
Oh yeah. He's just got - have you
looked at his arms? Those are good
arms to have. Riley is... I really like
him. I do...

She's becoming pensive.


WILLOW
But?


BUFFY
I don't know. I love being around him,
I think he cares about me, but...
I still feel like something's missing...

They think for a minute. Then Willow offers-


WILLOW
He's not making you miserable?


BUFFY
Exactly!
(then)
Riley seems so solid. Like he's not the
type to give a girl grief.


WILLOW
Get out. Get out while there's
still time.


BUFFY
I know. I gotta get over the whole bad
boy thing. There's no good there.
Seeing Angel in L.A. - even for five
minutes - hello to the pain.


WILLOW
(thinking of herself)
The pain is not a friend.


BUFFY
But then I can't help thinking, isn't
that where the fire comes from?
Can a nice safe relationship be that
intense? It's nuts, but part of me
believes that real love and passion
have to go hand in hand with
lots of pain and fighting-

Now A VAMP leaps out in front of them. With barely time to GROWL, Buffy STAKES him, POOF. They continue on, unphased, same tone of voice...


BUFFY (cont'd)
I wonder where I get that from?



(From the teaser of Something Blue, courtesy of buffyworld.com)


... but for your observation of her behavior. *g*



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 20 00:14:04 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin I have a very faint suspicion, but I think he'll try to deliver tomorrow, at least I've signed for it, so he can leave it at the door.



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Beldin says:
(Fri Sep 19 23:37:36 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Sep 19 23:38:13 2014
Christopher Marlowe - Iron, I think. Surprise packages. How exciting! What, oh what, could they be?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 19 23:28:50 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin That man has some brass balls for sure. *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 19 22:57:05 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Bledin A mystery! The Fedex guy tried to deliver two boxes to my apartment. I have no idea who they are from, but its originating out of California.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Sep 19 22:57:02 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin,

Excellent. All that I remember (?) of it was its telling of the events leading up to the Boston Massacre and the Battle of Quebec. *g* Of the former, I 'remember' British soldiers in Boston were able to do odd jobs on the side to supplement their pay. A few were working in a rope yard and that lead to some conflict with local colonialists.

... At least that's how my memory is constructing what I believe I read so long ago. *g*


WG



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Beldin says:
(Fri Sep 19 22:51:36 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - "Those Damned Rebels" arrived today. I bought a used hardcover. It's a former library book and a little worse for wear, but still in good condition.



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Beldin says:
(Fri Sep 19 22:14:09 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
Here now.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Sep 19 20:35:15 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Magazines
Question: What did Babette March model on the cover of a magazine?
Answer: swimsuit

Trivia Swimmers: Oldmanfan, notsoShygirl, valMichael
Trivia Guppies: Maverick, Agent Cooper

valMichael I wouldn't mind having that prize!



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OldManFan says:
(Fri Sep 19 19:49:02 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Sep 19 20:00:30 2014
Maverick - how you got that twisted around, I'll never figure out. The 'eager' to fight was on the attacking side, not the defending. True story: when I was 10 yrs. old I was 5'6" and 165 lbs. and came across a 13 yr. old beating up a younger and smaller friend of mine. I hit him. I spent the next three years of my life defending myself over and over again against older (and sometimes larger) kids who were eager to fight. It didn't matter that I was willing and able to defend myself (I never lost). When I was 13, I was 6'0" and 180 lbs., but by then girls replaced fighting in most boys hearts and those that didn't found other targets. I was glad because, although I was willing and able, I didn't like it.

I wasn't arguing that a position a strength is a bad thing, I was arguing with "Do that and you'll never have to fight." Sometimes you will still have to fight.

My point about one leader v. many is simple - there are lots of people who will still fight regardless of whether you're willing or not. All it takes is for that one to be the leader.

ETA - Scotland... it could be argued that much of the North Sea oil is closer to Scotland than England.

OMF



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valMichael says:
(Fri Sep 19 18:25:32 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Question Several overly large people entered a weight loss contest. At the end of three months, the one who had lost the most weight (by absolute weigh and percentage weight) were to be given a prize. What was is called?


wait for it ...


answer spoilered for delicate brains
] the No-belly Prize! [



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valMichael says:
(Fri Sep 19 18:20:03 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Sep 19 18:57:14 2014
Happy Birthday: amberlynne, Angelicsoul, Carebear, CharlieX, chiquens, Falco, Gryphon, and SlayerGirl!

YAY k8cre8!

Trivia Girl
She was the first Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue cover model and she modeled a swimsuit. :)

wolfguard I always figured Conner resembled Darla's family much more than Angel or his father. It's the same with me. Physically, I resemble my mother's side of the family much more than my father's. While watching Connor and Cordelia/Jasmine make love was indeed cringeworthy, we have to remember that it was actually Jasmine controlling Cordelia's body at that point. Remember the kiss with the stone beast? The real Cordelia would have done neither.

wolfguard, et al. Re: Scottish independence vote. I can't say I'm not relieved with the results. Economically, it makes little sense. The Texas Independence movement in Texas and other places are dealt a significant blow with this results. One of the worst things that could happen politically and economically to Texas (and California, too) would be independence from the United States. While both states would rank in the top 15 countries in the world (by GDP, California - 9th behind Russia and Texas - 14th alone, and 15th including California behind Spain)1, each would have to spend an appreciable part of it on new or much expanded Departments of State, Defense, and other services that the US provides. While Texas is technically a donor state receiving less revenue in services than it pays in taxes, that wouldn't make up for the amounts we would need to duplicate the services the US government provides. I do agree with the Scots that the United Kingdom needs to grant them a bit more autonomy like the US in that most states of the US control their own internal affairs.

1. This does not include the European Union as a single entity. If so included, California would rank 7th and Texas 10th with the EU ranking first with the US ranking 2nd 3.5 trillion dollars in GDB behind the EU with the loss of California and Texas. Currently (2009 - Wikipedia numbers) the US is second to the EU by 500 Billion dollars in GDP)



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 19 18:09:29 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
OldManFan LOL! I wouldn't have noticed that. *g*



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Maverick says:
(Fri Sep 19 17:56:46 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Babette modeled a toolbelt (and nothing else.) She wanted to be thought of as a "working model."


OldManFan: I can't seem to figure out your refinement on my defensive strategy. Perhaps you could expand on your theorizing. Who (the aggressor or the defender) is being thought of as "eager" to fight? I said the defensive posture is WILLING, not eager. And what does one leader have to do with it? Are you saying there's no one to talk him out of attacking? Yes, testosterone causes lots of wars, but projecting a weak posture will almost invite attack. Someone always will want to take away someone else's lunch money, but even they usually will go down the path of least resistance. In short, disarming, as so many want to do and believe it will de-escalate any crisis, will have a good chance of causing conflict.


What does Scotland have on its own that is worthy of being self-supporting? Ireland is heavily involved in computer technology. I believe Scotland gets much more from its association with "the British empire" (such as it is) than it "gives up" to be a member. The sad thing about England is that its "Immigration Policy" (which Obama and his ilk want to copy and institutionalize in THIS country) has all but created an internal violent threat. But, I am reminded of how Quebec, Canada, always has its separatist movement. Luckily for them, sane minds prevail. I think that if they ever ceased being part of Canada, they are so hard to get along with (perhaps the French insouciance) they would become marginalized and an economic basket case. Likewise with Scotland.


Yesterday, I went to see "Atlas Shrugged Part III." More later.


Maverick


Didn't I (Blow Your Mind This Time)?




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OldManFan says:
(Fri Sep 19 16:55:15 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
... my only interest in the Scottish independance vote is how it affects the price of Scotch.

Trivia Girl - a two-piece swimsuit. Technically, I believe notsoShyGirl told us everything about it except what she was modelling. *g

OMF



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Sep 19 15:40:24 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: She was presenting the new Allante. She beat out Kelly Bundy for the job by THIS much...


More of my nonsense:
I have a cold. It feels a bit better today. But I sound like Rudolph the freaking Reindeer when I talk. Its very professional sounding:

"Whads wrong wid by dose?"

Yes. I'll be utilizing email a lot today.

FOOTBALL- Tampa Bay deserves to be pounded into the ground like they were last night just for wearing those ugly, ugly uniforms. They don't even look like a football team. They look like they're going to a roller derby. Amiright??



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Fri Sep 19 14:47:59 2014 50.243.137.201) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Sep 19 15:17:24 2014
Trivia Girl
She was the first Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue cover model. She was on the
swimsuit issue cover of the January 20, 1964 issue.



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KAM says:
(Fri Sep 19 14:44:58 2014 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY K8CRE8

So sad to hear Scotland won't be independent and won't be declaring war on all the people who walk around wearing kilts at "geek culture" conventions. Sadly, now the fetishization of Scottish culture will continue. Thanks Vote No.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Sep 19 14:44:08 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Magazines
Question: What did Babette March model on the cover of a magazine?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Sep 19 13:10:20 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Friday, September 19th 2014 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!



amberlynne
Angelicsoul
Carebear
CharlieX
chiquens
Falco
Gryphon
SlayerGirl


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
amberlynne, Angelicsoul, Carebear, CharlieX, chiquens, Falco, Gryphon, SlayerGirl!



You turn on any of my crew, you turn on me.Mal, 'Ariel'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 19 12:55:37 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Yay k8cre8!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday Day!



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Sep 19 12:36:33 2014 69.247.134.78) [Edit/Delete]
Freedom! Wait a minute. . .William Wallace is turning over in his many graves right now ;)


wolfguard, ChristopherMarlowe, valMichael--I guess I never bought Conner because I didn't see Angel in Conner, physically--he must resemble Darla's side of the family ;) Plus, while the Darla/Angel and their baby storyline was great, once the baby was born he became problematic: what to do with a baby on the show, they take so long to grow up ;)

And Riley was good for Buffy? How? Since she kept him at arms' length, his effect on her was minimal.


Yay! K8cre8!


Happy Belated Birthday Jaan Quidam!



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OldManFan says:
(Fri Sep 19 12:00:05 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Comma - are you suggesting that, if Arizona has a referendum to secede, only the Navajo and Hopi should vote? Hmm... saying it out loud almost makes it sound fair.

Maverick - "The best way to avoid a fight is to be prepared to fight one and act like you WILL fight. Do that and you'll never have to fight." That might work with countries or organizations with multiple leaders. I have known way too many people eager to fight anyone to think it works when there is one leader.

OMF



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Sep 19 11:36:24 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for k8cre8!

yay k8cre8!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday Day!



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abt says:
(Fri Sep 19 09:56:53 2014 84.9.158.78) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - your post at 00:58:51 is how I saw it too - right now it doesn't take too much to tip to the Tories or Labour so they are both afraid of the voters - but without Scotland Tories would have much more power. So English Labour would prefer Scotland to stay, but if living in Scotland would prefer independence if just considering themselves.

I don't know anything about the other Scottish parties. Yesterday in Scotland the news crews were talking to people from other separatist groups who had come over, Flemish, Catalan, etc.


Comma - what do you mean here? "While there were British citizen, who live and work in Scotland, who were allowed to vote."

ChristopherMarlowe - I read yesterday that Doncaster still technically belongs to Scotland.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Sep 19 06:11:10 2014 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Niblet!

Belated Yay Dogmeat!


Happy Birthday Jaan Quidam!




Lostinamerica,

Riley was good for Buffy. Seeley Booth was better for David. *g* Seriously, on the latter. Recently watched several episodes of Bones. Booth is a deeper character than Angel.


valMichael,

As always, when I remember back to AtS I little coherent recall of most episodes. Charisma may have liked the storyline, but it appalled me. I still cringe thinking of Angel watching Cordelia and Connor having sex. Perhaps the writers took inspiration from the Greeks? *g* I did like the 4th season finale where W&H tempted each character with what they believed each most desired. But they failed with Angel. They offered him items to help Buffy and Angel's response ~ No. Buffy's a big girl. Angel's vulnerability was his love for his son. I did like how Connor turned out from that point.

I don't believe Joss' portrayal of demons deeply reflected Christianity's view of demons. I do believe, nay know *g*, the Christian elements seen in BtVS are storytelling conveniences derived from popular culture.

When an actor puts on a mask, they take on the role suggested by the mask. If I put on the mask of a devil, then I am playing the devil as directed. So the director decides how human or inhuman this devil will be.

I what to ponder some more on why I prefer 'Sunnydale'-type locales to metropoli. I can't yet put it into words, but I know how I feel. *g*


...

I just listened to First Minister Alex Salmon and now David Cameron is speaking. A few centuries ago they killed each other over these matters. I hope other folks might make the journey quicker.



Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Sep 19 05:44:56 2014 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Sep 19 05:46:31 2014
CNN reports ...

~With 84% turnout


~55% No

~45% Yes


Scotland decides to remain a partner in the United Kingdom.




ETA Christopher Marlowe

I believe your are correct.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 19 04:28:22 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I would think if
there was a significant amount of
undecided, then when they get to
the voting booth, they vote for the
safest option.

I understand Catalan (in Spain) is
in a similar situation. But I
gather that most of the citizens
there are more strongly in favor of
independence.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Sep 19 03:54:51 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Sep 19 03:56:34 2014
Christopher Marlowe,

It fascinates me. It's the human experience. *g*

CNN has been reporting polls showing it's a close race, ~49-51. They report the 'undecided' folks will determine it. If we can speak of the 'undecided' as being cut from the same cloth, then how likely are they to vote? If they do vote, do they tend to be risk-takers or play-it-safer's (like that phrase? *g*). Of course, they're probably not cut of the same tartan. *g*



ETA Wonder if valMichael's folks trace the ancestory back to Scotland or Ireland? Or perhaps someone else. *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 19 03:44:28 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard It's so fascinating
to read about the Scottish elections
over here, isn't it? *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Sep 19 03:03:58 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
CNN reported on two Scottish brothers who co-own a commerical farm that straddles the Scottish/English border. One of the brothers' home is on the English side. Consequently, even though he is a Scottish citizen he cannot vote in the election. At least some of their kids go to school in England. A 'yes' vote will mean they will need passports to go to school. *g*


WG



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Comma says:
(Fri Sep 19 02:25:01 2014 75.129.170.85) [Edit/Delete]
I have worn a 'Free Scotland 26 March 2016, shirt for over a year now. I wish that the British would give Northern Ireland back to Ireland.

I have several friends who are Scottish citizens, but live and work in the US. They are not allowed to vote. While there were British citizen, who live and work in Scotland, who were allowed to vote.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 19 01:51:27 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard It hadn't really
occurred to me before how well the
discussion on secession has been
handled. Regardless of how the vote
turns out, there will still be some
difficult times ahead, but non-
violent difficulties.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Sep 19 01:16:03 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Sep 19 02:08:57 2014
abt,

Another item from the article. The writer spoke of other Scottish parties who believe Alex Salmond, the Scottish First Minister, is not going far enough in seeking separation. They believe he canNOT 'square the circle' of cutting taxes and increasing public services. They are promoting ~ Scotland, Another Way ~.

And by the by, many groups with dreams of secession are watching the UK in astonishment and hope. What, no AK's? No bombs?


ETA Major typo. I wrote 'can' where I should have written 'cannot'. Edited correction in bold.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 19 01:01:30 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Late, but home for the night!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Sep 19 00:58:51 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Sep 19 01:00:14 2014
abt,

Last night CNN reported Scotland does not allow reporting on the issue on the day of voting. Time to act and not talk. *g* Today while in a book store saw The Nation had an article on the issue. Believing the magazine's editorial take is left-of-center, I read the last page of the article in the store. Yes, Borders Barnes & Noble subsidized me. :)

Anyway, the writer desribed her or himself as British and a Labour party supporter. Nevertheless, the writer hoped Scotland would vote to stay, but added ~ Were I Scottish, I'd vote for independence.

The writer added a few interesting political consequences I'd not heard of before ...

1. If Scotland departs, then the Tories will have full control of the British Parliament.

2. Cameron will not be long as Prime Minister.

3. The "little English" faction which wishes Britain to leave the European Union will be strengthen.

4. Some in Scotland are referring to Britain, post the Scottish departure, as "rUK" for 'rump UK'.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Sep 18 22:36:30 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
abt I don't trust polling 100% either, but I understand that the big cities in Scotland get collected last or something.



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abt says:
(Thu Sep 18 22:29:43 2014 84.9.158.78) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick - to judge Brett, watch the earlier ones, he got ill later on.

wolfguard, ChristopherMarlowe - polling is saying Scotland is staying, but polling has been wrong before. We should know in about 6 hours.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Sep 18 21:09:21 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Human Body
Question: What do you do if you have a sternutation?
Answer: You sneeze

Trivia Gesundheits: OldManFan, notsoShygirl (I am impressed!), valMichael

Trivia Sneezys: Maverick, Agent Cooper



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Maverick says:
(Thu Sep 18 19:09:23 2014 50.133.76.168) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: You have a very, very, very serious funny bone.


So many great comments about Jeremy Brett's portrayal of Sherlock Holmes, I brought two DVD's home with Brett's Sherlock. I'll be the judge.


Obama gave a speech to some military personnel in which he promised them that he would not order them to war in Iraq. First of all, if he hadn't pulled ALL troops out of Iraq (he did this AGAINST military recommendations, just so he could make speeches to Liberal/Progressive wimpy voters to tell them he was keeping his word) so he left the door open and let all the ISIS flies in. Now he announces he will not put them into combat positions (boots on the ground.) Would you walk through your town's ghetto wearing a sign saying "I have money, I am not armed, and I don't know karate?" When you do what Obama always does, you INVITE aggression. The best way to avoid a fight is to be prepared to fight one and act like you WILL fight. Do that and you'll never have to fight.


CD Thursday: Delfonics Greatest Hits.


Maverick


La La Means I Love You




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ChistopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Sep 18 18:11:36 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Agnet Cooper A troublemaker are you? Your kind are most welcome here. *g*



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Sep 18 15:23:10 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: I'm not allowed to answer questions like this anymore. Because of the restraining order.



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valMichael says:
(Thu Sep 18 15:06:12 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday: Ana, GlassesNanny, Jaan Quidam, and SMGFan!

YAY niblet!

Trivia Girl
a sneeze or sneezing

Beldin Thank you very much for the link to that video on the Fibonacci sequence, nature and art. The creator is a true artist and mathematician. Just think, 25 years ago, that would have required a team of animators, many months and many dollars to create. Today, with the proper software and a powerful computer, it can be made by a single person in a reasonable amount of time.

ChristopherMarlowe, wolfguard, lostinamerica Each series, BtVS and AtS had their own strengths and weaknesses. As for wolfguard's list, I'm don't agree with most of them. I thought possessed Cordelia was quite good. I loved the way Charisma played the part. I neither liked or disliked Connor. Angel moving to L.A. was necessary and broadened the range of stories available. BtVS could have worked in a large city such as New York where having a car is actually problematic. As for demons looking like humans in masks, we have to remember two things. One is that they were always portrayed by humans in masks (makeup :). And two, in Christianity which is one the basic concepts underlying the series (Holy Water, Catholic Church references and , crosses, etc.), demons have the ability to assume both human form and mannerisms in order to tempt humans to evil. Who knows, several could have been posting on the Bronze! ;-)



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OldManFan says:
(Thu Sep 18 14:49:56 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - A-a-a-a-a-choo!

OMF



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Sep 18 14:38:45 2014 50.243.137.201) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
A sneeze or the act of sneezing.

My personal record is 13 in a row.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Sep 18 14:33:08 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Human Body
Question: What do you do if you have a sternutation?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Sep 18 14:13:21 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Yay niblet!


Happy CD Thursday!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Sep 18 12:47:28 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, September 18th 2014 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!



Ana
GlassesNanny
Jaan Quidam
SMGfan


Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
Ana, GlassesNanny, Jaan Quidam, SMGFan!



Hey! What do you two think you're doing? Fightin' at a time like this. You'll use up all the air! Jayne, 'Out Of Gas'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Sep 18 12:39:14 2014 69.247.134.78) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard--True, Teenage Conner and possessed Cordy weren't the best concepts. Kind of like Riley and Season Sux ;)

cc ChristopherMarlowe


Yay! Niblet!



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KAM says:
(Thu Sep 18 12:20:05 2014 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY NIBLET

KAM
Ty King Fan



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Sep 18 11:56:32 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for niblet!

yay niblet!


Happy CD Thursday!



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Adri says:
(Thu Sep 18 08:46:35 2014 50.113.56.239) [Edit/Delete]
Thank you notsoShyGirl, Beldin,
KAM, lostinamerica, Christopher
Marlowe, valMichael
and Yay
of the Day
!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Sep 18 05:36:03 2014 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

"generic metropolis", I agree.



Love Scotland, Vote No

*g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Sep 18 03:26:38 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
wolfgaurd I agree with you about Teenage Connor and possessed Cordy, although how much of that was due to Charisma's pregnancy I'm not sure.

I think the L.A. setting worked better for the show early one, but it became more of a generic metropolis.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Sep 18 03:15:28 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I do not remember enough detail about AtS episodes or season storylines to do the topic justice. :) That said, here are some items that grated with me. *g*

- Teenage Connor

- Possessed 4th season Cordelia

- Skippy telling the fang gang that every significant decision they had made since Angel came to town was preordained, i.e. you didn't really have a choice.

- Demons who behaved very much as humans, essentially humans in masks.1 BtVS also moved this way. The first time I recall being the demon who offered to sell the Books of Ascension to Buffy. I understand the writers' argument that it broaden the range of stories, but some of the mystery and danger of the unknown was lost.

- Returning to AtS, I feel moving to L.A. took away some intimacy between the characters and the locale. Say Sunnydale, and one can imagine much of the town along the California coast. L.A.? Buffy would have needed a car early on.



1 This criticism doesn't apply to Joss' vampires. From the beginning Joss established vampires inherited all or some of the human victim's personality.



WG



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Sep 18 02:28:01 2014 69.247.134.78) [Edit/Delete]
ShadowQuest--I'm assuming you'd have newbies attending a model horse show, so why not have your seminar at the show for them? Or for people in attendance who find themselves interested in trying it themselves?


ChristopherMarlowe, wolfguard--ATS was the better series for me.


Yay! Dogmeat!



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Beldin says:
(Thu Sep 18 02:22:13 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
valMichael - Here's a beautiful video on the Fibonacci sequence and the Golden Ratio in nature.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Sep 18 01:23:26 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Sep 18 02:07:04 2014
Christopher Marlowe,

I believe there are enough people who prefered AtS to BtVS that were this the Bronze of ten years ago, well, you'd have started a boisterous debate.*g* That said, the statement is true for me. I will ponder on it and reply in a bit.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Sep 18 00:30:04 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I think we can
generally agree that Buffy as a
series was better than Angel as a
series? If so, what could have been
done to improve Angel?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Sep 17 23:40:29 2014 72.78.162.13) [Edit/Delete]
AjO Yes, I have many odd ideas like that. How about Lillian Gish and Jeffrey Hunter as Buffy and Angel?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Sep 17 23:13:38 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
abt I am still quite enjoying Doctor Who, but I wonder when they'll make Pink a official companion?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Sep 17 22:55:24 2014 75.76.165.174) [Edit/Delete]
Oopsie *g*

Trivia Master: alwaysrightNotsoShyGirl!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Sep 17 22:50:43 2014 50.243.137.201) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
ahem....



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Beldin says:
(Wed Sep 17 22:44:33 2014 72.26.0.146) [Edit/Delete]
Here now.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Sep 17 20:41:47 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: With whom does Angel swap bodies in Carpe Noctem?
Answer: Marcus

Trivia Masters: valMichael, OldManFan
Trivia Newbies: Agent Cooper


valMichael I'll have to fix it from home.

AjO Now Buffy and Angel were able to go 7/5 season respectively with pretty much their core group intact. But they did have to significantly change their situation. MOving from high school to college, From the Hyperion to W&H.


abt It seems there isn't significant practical reason to be independent, other than the romantic idea of independence.



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AjO says:
(Wed Sep 17 20:23:27 2014 184.6.213.117) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe: Valid points, indeed. Perhaps the evolution of the Machine is surpassing the limitations placed on it by its creator (Finch) and
not only recruiting Samaritan but giving it purpose, as it did for Finch and Reese. Maybe then the Machine could change how its done, provide
conflict and opportunities to explore character. Either way, Jonathan Nolan is a genius storyteller. Looking forward to this season!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Sep 17 19:25:25 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Miss Piggy!

...no, wait, that was a different episode.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Sep 17 18:32:09 2014 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
CNN reports on ISIS / Islamic State video. They showed some portions of the clip. It looked very much like a trailer for a war film. It ended ...

FLAMES OF WAR
the fighting has just begun

(Arabic script)
coming soon



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Sep 17 18:02:56 2014 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Frigate It!



*g*


WG



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abt says:
(Wed Sep 17 18:01:31 2014 84.9.158.78) [Edit/Delete]
Scottish referendum tomorrow. I hope they stay.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Sep 17 17:20:16 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Sep 17 17:27:32 2014
AjO I don't necessarily disagree with you about Shaw and Root going off together, they don't feel as fundamental to the show as Carter was.

It might be more difficult to get rid of Root storywise as she is effectively functioning as a stand-in to the Machinee and I can't see them backtracking on that and going back to the season one Machine.

It's tricky to continue to maintain what made a show great to begin with, yet not have it grow stale. Usually when things seem to be too settled with the characters, dramawise, they have to bring in new characters to create the tension that drives the characters and plot.



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OldManFan says:
(Wed Sep 17 16:36:52 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - Ron Howard's father.

OMF



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valMichael says:
(Wed Sep 17 16:25:48 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Birthday Gnomette please check the second line of birthdays :)

Question Where do you order piranhas from?


wait for it ...


answer spoilerered for delicate brains
] From Amazon! [



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valMichael says:
(Wed Sep 17 16:05:05 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday: LB!

YAY dogmeat!

Trivia Girl
Marcus Roscoe

deadguy QOD Definitely Cordelia. Charisma is stunning wearing formal clothes in her appearances.



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AjO says:
(Wed Sep 17 14:53:55 2014 184.6.213.117) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper: To say Im in the biz
would be a dramatic overstatement. Im
currently out of the biz, but hoping to one day
see my work come to fruition. That said, we are
vindicated because we are right. ;)

ChristopherMarlowe & Agent
Cooper
: Losing Carter was painful for the
shows dynamic and as much as it seems Amy
and Sarah are trying to fill the gap, theyre sort
of treading on covered territory (Finch &
Reese). My biggest hope this season? That
Samaritan gets recovered by the Machine and
Shaw & Root leave to be a separate team
altogether. It would get the show back to its
fundamentals, be a compelling bit of
storytelling and open up the door for a spin-
off. I always consider the fundamentals of a
show to be the most compelling reason to
watch it. I felt that every great show that goes
on (and on, and on, andyou get the picture)
loses this particularly important ingredient.
When they try to thin the batch (if I can
maintain this metaphor) by adding new people
to the mix without it being of benefit to the
recipe, the cake is ruined. It happened not just
to Buffy and Angel, but to X-Files, Person of
Interest, Northern Exposure, etcetera. There
comes a point, if you start a show that you
have to let it go and say, Nope, Im done. The
story has been told and theres nothing more I
have to say. They hold true to this philosophy
on many British shows. Even Doctor Who! The
actors, producers/writers, are all subject to
dismissal because the story for THAT Doctor
has been told. Its beyond the scope of
television in America because, despite the
harsh reality, greed is good for television. The
one thing that is good about Sitcoms is there is
generally no getting to the third act. In film, in
most stories, they follow the three-act
structure where there is introduction, conflict,
and resolution. In television they try to follow
the structure of one, two, one. The real story
isnt resolved; its perpetually kept in motion
by returning back to act one. Thats why in
most sitcoms the end of the show doesnt give
the characters a tremendous sense of growth.

DaddyCatALSO: Hello! If only it were
possible. Rathbone held a great presence as
Sherlock, making sure to follow the book it
seemed. While he held tightly to the cold,
calculating manner that Watson gave, it
seemed as though Brett and other actors defied
Watson by finding in Holmes more subtleties
and nuances to apply to the character.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Sep 17 14:41:44 2014 50.243.137.201) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Marcus, an old man



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Sep 17 14:37:52 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: With whom does Angel swap bodies in Carpe Noctem?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Sep 17 13:01:57 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Yay dogmeat!

today's deadguy memorial qod

the sunnydale beauty pageant - points deducted for bite marks

I think Cordy was the only character I would have considered the closest to the pageant look. I'm not sure what her talent would have been and she might ruffle too many feathers if she answered the interview portion of the pageant. Harmony might be a close second, but she would be just as bad as Cordy, but in an entirely different way with the interview part.



Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!


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