Beldin I plan to do a lot of sitting around today. Sitting at home, sitting at the Center and then sitting watching a performance by a mixed-ability group this afternoon.

I'm not sure I want to watch my netflix dvd of The Hurt Locker[./i], but I got the dvd of Red Cliff yesterda.

Christopher Marlowe - My post was two hours behind him. I just happened to wake up and got up to get some water.

Beldin Good morning to you! I missed Aethelaf, but I sent him an email.

Here now. Saturday good mornings/afternoons/evenings, everyone.

Today is SATURDAY July 31st, 2010 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!

Brenna
The Confused One
Jayne
Lil
Lovely Poet

Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
Brenna, The Confused One, Jayne, Lil, Lovely Poet!


Buckle up, kids! Daddy's puttin' the hammer down.Spike, 'Spiral'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com

Aethelaf~ I kind of agree. I was able to watch the first 3 episodes and found that while I love him, he can be kind of a jerk. However, those "fellows"...it all seemed a bit..staged, like they're all actors. NOBODY is that stupid in real life. But I will say, if it is staged, Dr. Hawass is a brilliant actor!

Drive-by

Aethelaf - Now there's a name from the distant past. I'm afraid there's not much happening here these days during the old L.O.S.E.R. hours. How in the world have you been?

been scrollin' scrollin'... let's keep those wagons rollin' (cough, cough, umm right...)

RedCrayon: Engineer?... Hey! I resemble that remark! :P

Well I see there're still a few names from archaeological times kicking around.

Actually speaking of archaeology I watched a couple of episodes of 'Chasing Mummies'... Dr. Zahi Hawass may be a brilliant archaeologist and an excellent Egyptian modern nationalist to counter the so-called 'islamic' retard fanatics, but... still... I'd like to kick him in the nuts for how he treats his students and archaeology fellows.
Just imho.

ttfn
Aethelaf

Yeah, ok I'm behind the times...

So hands up who liked Dr. Horrible's Musical blog?
(Hand)

Also related, who's watching "the Guild"... and if not, why? what's wrong with you?!?

Aethelaf
Man is anyone still around from BTVS first season?

SOs to: Friend or Foe, Closet Buffyholic, 'stina, OzFan, LouWho, Fenric, Anya, ValMichael, Professional Lurker, Kate228 the BotB (my IB), Rakshasa, Buffy13, Icefire, Jubilee, Cosmic Bob, Night Blooming Jasmine, Cleio, VaBuffyFan, StGermain, Corvus, Safarigirl, Lady Wolfsbane, peanut (our resident legume), Dao Jones, Robyn TSH, Old One, Paksenarrion, and of course Bruddah Max.

More SOs to the The Crayon Clubbers: Blondymu, Shanell, Moriah, Macho Macho Man, Psychochica23, DoBoy, Shay, French Guy, Jayne

Wow... been awhile since I've been on a 'Bronze'. Anyone still here?

Aethelaf "the Grey Knight"
KXO
Buffy, Eh? (#48)
UBC (#274)
OPBotBA
Kate228s IB
Jubilee's Swoonee
Green Member of the Crayon Club

valMichael - Saved by a lawyer! She needed details requiring research, and it was upper
90s before I finished. Yardwork has to wait for the morrow.

wolfguard My apologies for that! I didn't realized there might be a problem with the quoting. I'll be a bit more careful and try to pull quotes that actually aired.

Beldin Fixed and thank you!

More people here tonight than has lately been usual for a Friday night. It's good to see.


Time for me to head out. Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.

Yay, Mrs. Beasley!

ETA:

Christopher Marlowe - Where did you see a post from valMichael?

Yay Mrs. Beasley!



Menomegirl,

Thank you!



Christopher Marlowe,

Just checked. The line is indeed from the shooting script.



Good Night to All

WG

wolfguard I will have to look. I usually grab those quotes from a website that automatically generates one every day. They certainly could have gotten it wrong.

ETA

You guys are both right. I've tried a couple other transcript sites and they don't have that quote either. So it was in the shooting script, but never made it to the screen.

wolfguard-That exerpt is from
the shooting script
of "Into the Woods".

TheBirthdayGnomette,

You posted the following quote today ...

Dawn: Are you kidding? Dr. Keiser: I never kid about my amazing surgical skills. 'Into the Woods'


I've searched the transcript at Buffyworld using 'kidding', 'surgical', and 'skills' but cannot find the line. Can you direct me to the act and/or scene?

Also, the transcript shows the doctor's name as 'DR. KRIEGEL'.


WG

Beldin-No kidding.

Menomegirl - Must be too hot to do anything.

GothicAvenger Lol i
think i broke a toe! I gotta
stop drinking...lmao!

Ranger~ lol goon

Christopher Marlowe
im not a tea drinker. I
float back and forth between
UK and Atlanta. But because
im mostly in UK a lot i really
miss US. I know in my heart
thats where i belong. In
dixie! By the by i just tripped
over my cell phone wire and
it F***ing hurt! Lmao

Beldin-I have no idea. There
must not be anything much because my
Eventful email just listed movie
showtimes, LOL.

Comma - I've never really cared for boiled peanuts. Parched or raw – yum. When I was a kid I spent the summers with my grandparents and Granny's two brothers on a 150 acre farm. They raised peanuts to feed the vines to the cows in the winter. I used to sit in the loft, surrounded by peanuts, picking them off and eating them until I was stuffed. Uncle Tom used to parch some in the oven every once in a while.

im so mad!
I've gotten so used to watching my missed tv shows online to the point that if if its only available ondemand on tv, I dont wanna watch it! I PREFER watching missed things on my laptop. argh. i've spoiled myself.
this show on the history channel, Chasing Mummies, doesnt have any episodes online that I need to see. only the 3rd or 4th episode, which is incredibly STUPID. I looked EVERYWHERE, but I can watch it on tv which I hate...blargh!

Menomegirl That is most excellent news!

Living way up north in Tennessee, there is one other thing that I miss, boiled peanuts. I may bring a tub of green peanuts back with me.

If all had not started talking about alligaters, I would not be making this trip. It has been a while since I when by my parents graves. I will be coming back down here in September.

Comma

Menomegirl - Hi there. What's going on in the Golden Triangle tonight?

GothicAvenger-Yeah, I wish
she'd write more, too.
Interview was, I think, the
1st book I bought and read of my
own initiative. I was all of 12 at
the time. That book is probably at
the root of my love for slash. :)

Ranger-Hi!

Everyone else-Hi!

Christopher Marlowe, Leather Jacket-TNT renewed Leverage for a 4th
season.

Ranger I know that the south is famed for their sweet tea. Dont' supposed you have a secret receipe? *g*

Ranger - And you won't do the same on fb or ms? At least here you can ctrl-f.

Ah the south, how i miss
Dixie. On a separate note,
thought id join the convo, i
really hate Twilight!

Noodling was taught to white Southerners by slaves. By different names, but the same methods, noodling is still done in almost all warm climates.

Comma

Beldin I just watched the Warrior, a slow, thoughtful movie. If I was in the mood for slow and thoughtful, I would have enjoyed it more. Good characters though.

Beldin,

I think Tom Sawyer had something to do with starting noodling.

Huck - We can't go fishin' Tom, don't have no pole or string.

Tom - Now Huck, you have your hands, don't you?

Huck - Well I can't reach them.

Tom - Just jump in. You like to swim don't you Huck?

Huck - Sure do.

Tom - You get to do both. At the same time. It's what yankees call efficiency.

*g*


WG

Beldin Well, yeah,
but we havent spoke here for
years! Must have kept
missing each other.

Christopher Marlowe - I suggested he play "Riding the Storm Out" but don't know if he will.

wolfguard - *g* Yeah, and who really needs all those fingers anyway?

Beldin,

It does economize on bait. *g*

WG

GothicAvengerWe're all a little mad here. *g*

Beldin Glad Mike is back!

wolfguard - Yes, sticking his arm up any ol' hole in the bank to see what's there. (Hoping it's a catfish smaller than he.)

Zoom through

GothicAvenger Sheesh. Sorry I replied to you.

I wasn't telling you what the show was about, I was saying those things, in my opinion, is what made the show so very popular that loyal fans will compare any ensuing vampire show/novel/movie to "Buffy," and most likely not favorably.

I read "Dracula" because of "Buffy," but have not read any of Anne Rice's books. "Dracula" was a bit hard to get into at first, due to the style of writing, but eventually I got used to it, and actually enjoyed the book.

The only other vampire book I've read is the first of the Dark Madonna trilogy; unfortunately it doesn't look like the author has published the other books. (They're published "on demand.") I'm not at all interested in the "Buffy" novels or the comics. Or the Twilight series.

In my "research library" I do have the "The Vampire Book - Encyclopedia of the Undead," and a nifty book called "Vampires - From Vlad Drakul to the Vampire Lestat," which includes stories of famous vampires in history, such as Countess Bathory. And I recently bought "A Practical Guide to Vampires," which actually gave me some ideas for a recent fic I wrote.

(I also have some books on mythology, Native American legends, and a couple on forensic investigations.)

Book Friday

Finishing "Looking for Rachel Wallace," book six of the Spenser series by Robert Parker, then I'll start the seventh one, "Early Autumn."

Christopher Marlowe Believe it or not, they still don't have me in the computer in Antigo. So I have no idea when I work next. Shelly did offer me hours tomorrow, if I want them, but I don't know if Antigo will call & have me come in. She also invited me to the "company picnic" in August.

Lots of hugs today, but no tears. Even after three years. It's not like I'll never see them again - I have to drop off my uniforms & pick up my paycheck next week. Which reminds me: I gotta make sure they have my change of address. Last paycheck still had my old address in Elcho.

Oh, and I have grass! Little baby grasses have finally sprung up in the backyard. Looks like we're due some rain tonight, so I'll see how things look tomorrow. Wish we'd have some respite from the rain so stuff could dry out - I don't like having a swamp in my backyard. If it's nice this weekend maybe Mom & I can put the fence back up.

Ooh! Bones is on!

Zoom, zoom

Ranger~ and anyone else interested in what im interested in~
My Asian-Tastic Myspace!!

Giggles like a schoolgirl in a black dress

Beldin,

Comma is noodling.


ETA catfishgrabblers

ETA 2 Youtube Demo



WG

GothicAvenger - Evidently. But it would keep either of you from creating an account you really don't want; and you're here anyway....

Beldin: Doing this on the mobile. I guess one should go back to our talk about gators. But, yes I do stick my arm into holes looking for catfish. I still have both arms.

On second thought, check back with me Sunday. Between noodling and running coondogs, I may need a replacement arm.

Comma

Beldin~you're funny. talk here? pfft. have you lost your mind? lol

Comma - Don't tell me you stick your arm up any ol' hole in the bank to see what's there.

Almost in Montgomery. Another couple of hours and we will be in Geneva. Aruthor, an old school friend on mine, wants to go noodling in the morning. I may go. Bar-B-Q tomorrow afternoon. I can see someone wanting to go run the coon dogs tomorrow night. I may sleep all the way back home.

Comma

Ranger, GothicAvenger - Or you could, you know, talk here.

ETA:

Christopher Marlowe - Mike's back on the air.

Ranger Tea with a friend in the morning and possibly going to a dance performance in the afternoon.

GothicAvenger =( i
dont do myspace. Give me
your myspace html and ill
make one. My friends keep
telling me too but i can never
be bothered! Lol

Christopher Marlowe - There's a huge thunderstorm just above Mike Harvey's satellite uplink and he's off the air for a while tonight.

Ranger~I hate to break it to you but, im one of the 10 people in the world that doesnt Facebook. I simply refuse!
I'm a myspacer.

Christopher Marlowe
Meh, having a few
drinks. Got to work tomorrow
tho. In 7 hours. Lol. You?

wolfguard I have no idea. I haven't read any article that impressed me so much I remember it. I'll have to think on it.

ETA

Part of the problem is that I don't usually read article heavy magazines. The ones I am thinking of right now come from Rolling Stone.

I am reading that article on Frank Sinatra. It is very long, but I am very impressed with how it has been written so far.


ETA

Ranger Hey there. *g* Having fun so far this weekend?

Hey, Ranger.


Book Friday:

"The Return of Retief"　by Keith Laumer. It was published in 1984 and I've had it about as long.

How rude of me, Hey to
everyone else!

Christopher Marlowe,


I've only read one of them, the last on the young man who traveled to Alaska to find himself and died. That said, just noting the magazines, I believe there are better articles. *g*

What can be said about dining on lobsters that would rate it so high? OTOH, John McPhee has written a non-fiction book on oranges, I believed titled, Oranges, that's said to be magic. And there's recent book on the sport of cricket of which one reviewer said everyone should learn cricket just to be able to revel in the book. *g*

Still, the article's title and choices is designed to start arguments. *g*


What's your favorite article of all time?


WG

GothicAvenger Im
still all about Manson, Cradle
and the like. You have to give
me your fbook! Miss chatting
to you. I'd post mine but im
on my cell atm. Lol.

wolfguard, Ran across this.

Top Five Magazine ARticles

Ranger~oh, im into a different sort of metal these days. J-Rock. I'm also into Mandarin Pop, mainly groups from Taiwan where I hope to visit someday.

GothicAvenger & Christopher Marlowe,

Some extended excerpts from What Girls Want by Caitlin Flanagan

I copied and pasted the parts. Apostrophes did not survive the transport and some spacings had poofed.


"...The salient fact of an adolescent girls existence is her need for a secret emotional lifeone that she slips into during her sulks and silences, during her endless hours alone in her room, or even just when shes gazing out the classroom window while all of Modern European History, or the niceties of the pass compos, sluice past her. This means that she is a creature designed for reading in a way no boy or man, or even grown woman, could ever be so exactly designed, because she is a creature whose most elemental psychological needsto be undisturbed while she works out the big questions of her life, to be hidden from view while still in plain sight, to enter profoundly into the emotional lives of othersare met precisely by the act of reading...

...Twilight centers on a boy who loves a girl so much that he refuses to defile her, and on a girl who loves him so dearly that she is desperate for him to do just that, even if the wages of the act are expulsion from her family and from everything she has ever known. We havent seen that tale in a girls book in a very long time. And its selling through the roof...

...Stephenie Meyer has re-created the sort of middle-class American youth in which it was unheard-of for a nice girl to be a sexual aggressor, and when the only coin of the realm for a boy who wanted to get lucky was romance and a carefully waged campaign intended to convince the girl that he was consumed by love for her...

... There is no question about the exact nature of the physical act that looms over them. Either they will do it or they wont, and afterward everything will change for Bella, although not for Edward...

SPOILER ON SERIES' ENDING

((
...Bellas fervent hopeone that will not be realized until the final novelis that Edward will ravage her, and that they will be joined forever; the harrowing pain that is said to be the victims lot at the time of consummation means nothing to her. She loves him and wants to make a gift to him of her physical bodyan act fraught with ambiguous dangers (the Twilight series so resonates with girls because it perfectly encapsulates the giddiness and the raptureand the menacethat inherently accompany romance and sex for them)..."))


WG

GothicAvenger
HUGS! Lol. Yea you and Foot
Tapper welcomed me here
oh, 6 years ago! Still into the
metal? Going to loads of
great gigs in the coming
months.

RANGER!!! *running-tackle-hugs*
How have you been? I know! It's been ages!

Menomegirl~I kinda did it backwards. I saw the movie with my sister when it came out to theaters and then read the books, but I didnt read the books til years later. It really is too bad she stopped writing them. How I miss the Brat Prince.

wolfguard~oh of course. all young people in love believe nobody understands their love and how they feel, nevermind the fact that its been that way for millions of years lol.

Christopher Marlowe,

There was an article in The Atlantic where the author said ~ she believes most mothers would be horrified to learn their daughters relate to Bella's choice (Warning: I'm simplifying a long article read months ago).

(ETA As I remember, the author read and enjoyed the books, but it was after pondering on them, she realized she didn't want her teenage to read them.)


ETA 2 Found the article online, "What Girls Want" (The Atlantic)



WG

GothicAvenger, wolfguard Bella has been insistent from the beginning she wanted to be a vampire and be with Edward. Edward spent several books refusing her. While Bella could have simply tried to find someone else, she persisted with him.

GothicAvenger,

I've known so many teenage couples who thought their love was forever, only to learn it was not. OTOH, everyone likes to believe they're special, different from the rest.

WG

GothicAvenger !!
How are you! Havent spoke
with you in ages! You prob
remember me under the
name of AngelUK. Had to
change it, too confusing =D

GothicAvenger-I think the
vampire craze began with Anne Rice's
novel, not the movie. The book was
just so different from anything that
had been written in the genre before
that. :) While I'm not a fan of
Twilight, I do love True Blood. I
never miss an episode.

Wolfguard~ I watched the whole thing. In my opinion, yes, he is doing the right thing by changing her. If they're to be together, it would be cruel to let her age and die, plus, there is the volturi to consider. If Edward doesnt change her, they'd pretty much both end up dead.
If it were me, i'd want to be turned.

GothicAvenger,

How much of the parody clip did you watch?

Do you believe Bella is making the right decision? Is Edward showing his love if he turns her?

WG

BirthdayGnomette~Yes, im a twilight fan, though I think i'd have to say im more a fan of the books than the movies, especially the first one. SO many things were wrong with it. It has been said by many Twi-hards that Bella is annoying and really doesnt deserve either Edward OR Jake. Im kind of undecided on that front, though I can see where their view comes from. I've never really been a fan of those kinds of...parody videos where the maker is CLEARLY biased on the subject.

Wolfguard see above~I didnt get into Buffy until the 2nd season because after having seen the movie and hearing they were making a show about it, my reaction was, "ugh, really? I mean it was a cute movie, but...really?"
But then everything changed when I actually saw the show.

shadowquest~ did you miss the part where I said:
"these people lately that are saying things like "all this vampire craze started with Buffy."

I didnt say people were saying things like, "this whole vampire/slayer/demon story I can relate to craze started with Buffy".

For me, the vampire thing started with Interview with the Vampire.
Remember? Brad Pitt as Louis and Tom Cruise as Lestat? It doesnt get more mainstream than that.
And I know what the show was all about, thanks.

Everyone else interested~ Now i've moved on to True Blood. Whoooo! Talk about action and adventure!

Ahhhh, the start of a 5 day weekend

Yay Mrs.Beasley

Happy Birthday wishes to Boy Wonder, Coma Girl, FallenAngelxyz. Kinsey730, Phil

Book Friday

Finished Stieg Larsson's Girl with the Dragoon Tattoo (Excellent)
Reading -
CS Forester - A Ship of the Line
and starting
Elizabeth Ferrars - Skeleton Staff

Here now.

DaddyCatALSO,

It's something I've been saying since c. 1968. :)

ETA to add the italics. *g*


WG

DaddyCatALSO You might have to remind me what jocose means.

wolfguard Was that meant as a restatement of what I'd said, or was that your principle, or soemthing else again?

Christopher Marlowe Beldin Comma Drunk stories make pretty good jokes a lot of times, but spinning them out to greater length can be problematic. I once tried a fic, as a way to run down the history of the ex-Scoobs in my main sub-verse, inw hich "the wives" are away for 3 days and Buffy, Willow, Xander, Giles, Jonathan, Oz, and Cordelia's favorite ex-husband have a little gtahering and hash over the intervening years. Problems were 1- I can't write jocose drunks funny because I haven't seen enough of them 2- I can't write bellicose drunks funny because I've seen too many of them 3- I can't write lachrymose or comatose drunks funny because they aren't. So I gave that up in favor of some better ideas.

DaddyCatALSO,

The administration is the orchestra and the president the conductor - that's the theory.


GothicAvenger,

I've never read Stoker or Rice. What caused me to begin watching BtVS was a single scene in Never Kill a Boy on the First Date and what hooked me was the episode Prophecy Girl. In both, it was the theme of duty and selflessness that touched me. The show could have been titled ' Buffy the Demon Slayer' or Buffy the Slayer' or even "Buffy' and I would I have continued watching.¹ :)

I have seen all of the Twilight movies and they've been entertaining. OTOH, I've had several people who have read the books, some fans, who believe Bella is too passive and, as one said, 'stupid.' Love will make you do the whacky. *g*


¹ I've read that Joss would have preferred the series title, 'Buffy.'


WG

Tea Time is Irish Breakfast with Lemon, although I feel pretty alert right now instead of sleepy.

Home and off for the weekend. Once Monica gets off, we will head toward Geneva.

Comma

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Mascots
Question: What's the name of the interactive paper clip that appears in Microsoft products?
Answer: Clippit or Clippy

Trivia Bill Gates: Mrs.Beasley
Trivia Techs: Agent Cooper, DaddyCatALSO, valMichael, buffyrat

wolfguard

Thanks for posting that link. It was great!

Happy Birthday to: Boy Wonder, Coma
Girl, FallenAngelxyz. Kinsey730, and
Phil!

YAY Mrs.Beasley!

white wings 86 F(not C :) is just moderately warm. It doesn't begin to qualify as hot till at least 91.

Zoom through

Beldin Yeah, I bet her first thought was "What the hell!?"

I'm still trying to figure out how the guy managed to run himself over with his own truck. I think I missed something in Mike's retelling.

GothicAvenger Yeah, Stoker and Rice and the rest all came first. And of course there was "Dark Shadows" and "Forever Knight."

But I think the appeal of "Buffy" is that it was mainstream and had characters everyone could relate to. Everyone at one time has felt like the brainy nerd, or the class clown, dated someone in a band, had a crush on a teacher, etc.

It wasn't a "show about vampires," but about young people dealing with the crap life throws at you every day - being the new kid in school, being unpopular or too popular - and some things that are more personal - losing a parent, coming to terms with your sexuality.

Plus? Pretty, pretty people.

Add in Joss's fantastic dialogue, moving stories, and the amazing performances of the actors, and you've got a standard many fans will hold any newcomers up to.

Just my before-work thoughts.

Zoom, zoom

There is also the one about the two drunk cajuns walking along a railroad track when they came to a overpass. The sign on the overpass read, 'CLEARANCE 11 Feet.' One Cajun turned to another and said, "Wee that Clearance is a big boy!"

Comma

Beldin, DaddyCatALSO You can't go too wrong with drunk jokes. *g*

Agent Cooper How do you feel about that little mutt that is a Search Companion?

Yay Mrs. Beasley

I don't want to go out and work on drip systems. But it seems to be a cool 86. I should do it. I can do it.

Maybe.

Trivia Girl

I'll bet the "mac" folks are snickering.

Happy Birthday to: Boy Wonder, Coma Girl, FallenAngelxyz. Kinsey730, and Phil!

YAY Mrs.Beasley

Trivia Girl it's called "what the hell is this thing??"

DaddyCatALSO - That story is from the Justin Wilson Meets John Barleycorn album and one of my favorites. Another is about two drunk Cajuns who came crawling out of a bar after closing time and ended up on a railroad track. After a while one says to the other, "You know, this is the longest d@mn set of stairway steps I never climbed before again in my life." The other one says, "I don't mind these long stairway steps but that low handrail is giving me hell."

Beldin valMichael Comma My ex was nuts for cooking shows; Justin Wilson, Julia Child, Je ff SMith, Martin Yan, Mary Ann Esposito, Gra ham Kerr, Jacques Pepin. Thing is, she wasn't an adventurous eater so she never let me try any of the stuff we watched.
I first saw Justin wilson on the TV comemrcials in the 80s. I also saw him on an episode of the talk show Nashville Now. He told story about drunk who was walkign thru a graveyard, fell into an empty grave and went to sleep there.
Later he woke up shivering and started yelling, "Help me I'm cold! Help me, I'm cold!"
Another drunk wlaking by heard him and came running over. He looked down into the grave and said, "Well, no wonder you're cold, you done kicked all your dirt off'n you."

Another episode of that show was the last time I ever saw Brooke Benton. Man, that voice was smooth as buttered granite. Among other things, he did imitations of some other singers like Johnny Mathis and Nat Cole.

wolfguard Leather Jacket Honestly, I think the Carter Adminsitration was what convinced me that what was improtant was not the President's personal intelligence, whether practical smart or visionary smart, and more his ability to pick a team with those various types of intelligence and then (equally crucial) let them have their head.

ETATrivia girl I don' know de name but I think he cute. cc Agent Cooper Mrs.Beasley :-)

TRIVIA GIRL - What name HASN'T that annoying little clip been called by in anger?

Trivia Girl
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits
Clippit, nicknamed Clippie, most often greeted with "No, you G** d***** annoying know-it-all twit, I don't want to write a letter, I want to make a list of participants in the office football pool."

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Mascots
Question: What's the name of the interactive paper clip that appears in Microsoft products?

Good Morning Everyone,

YAY MRS.BEASLEY

Christopher Marlowe: Although I lack the dread of school-children at the summer ending, I sympathize with them. However, Summer for me is just that annoying time between Spring and Fall when you can't step outside without sweating and I have to spend extra money on air conditioning. :)

These past few weeks have been DISGUSTING as far as humidity. However, the "Dry spell" which seems to come for a few weeks every July has been followed by a significant amount of rain, so my grass isn't actually dead! It's full of weeds and looking crappy, but it isn't dead!

And that reminds me that I have to go and pull weeds this weekend along my eastern border, because I am sure it looks something like a jungle right now.

KAM
Ty King Fan

KAM Where did the summer go?

Yay Mrs.Beasley!

let's hear a great big bronze cheer for mrs. beasley!

yay mrs. beasley!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday Day!

Today is FRIDAY, July 30th, C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthday
Boy Wonder
Coma Girl
FallenAngelxyz
Kinsey730
Phil

Happy Birthday from the Bronze TO the Bronze
to
Boy Wonder, Coma Girl, FallenAngelxyz. Kinsey730, Phil!

Dawn: Are you kidding? Dr. Keiser: I never kid about my amazing surgical skills.'Into the Woods'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



GothicAvenger I didn't know you were a Twilight fan! I've been impress how deeply the movie touches the others.

I have zero doubt the editing took stuff out of context.

I think the point of the parody is that some folks have trouble with the perceived passive nature of Bella and that Edward's behavior is seen as stalker-ish.

However, Angel certainly watched over Buffy, watched in her room and general felt he was no good for Buffy, much like I assume Edward was.

Both Bella and Buffy shouldn't be sole role models for women as they seem to be on opposite ends of the scale.

ShadowQuest - Thumbing through the previous board, I just found a couple of bozo stories you posted Tuesday. I didn't see them at the time. Sorry 'bout that. I liked the one about the two guys stealing a camera from a plain clothes cop. Bet she couldn't believe it at first. At least they helped her catch them.


valMichael - I didn't see Justin Wilson on TV until Houston PBS carried his cooking show a few years ago. I had two of his albums on 8-track. The first one was Justin Wilson Meets John Barleycorn and was the better of the two. I don't remember the title of the second one.

you know, of course I love Buffy but, I also love Twilight. I dont know if i'd call myself a Twi-hard, but I love the books and have seen all the movies to date.
That video wolfguard posted was kind of, well, dumb. All it did was point out how closed off Buffy really was and just how much of a Bitcah she really was and all the Edward scenes were taken out of and put into, or also out of, context. I just really didnt like it.
But thats just my opinion.
Another thing that gets me is these people lately that are saying things like "all this vampire craze started with Buffy."
Um, no.
How Quickly we forget Anne Rice, and before then, Bram Stoker.
I'm just sayin.

VampSlayer-RTFLMAO! That was
good. Thank you. :)

VampSlayer I must just steal from you on that Buffy/Edward thing. *g*

Time for me to head out. Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.

Yay Morella!



Good Night to All

WG

*laughs his way right out of lurkage*

Oh, VampSlayer, that was priceless, just priceless. Right up there with "Harmony has minions?!?"

Christopher Marlowe,

I think that's a very clever idea for a story.

WG

wolfguard ROFL!


How about Buffy and Angel going to see the Twilight movie and debating it afterwards? *g*

ETA

Beldin Hey, corn flakes can be rough!

Victor Mature playing aging actor Tony Powell in 1968's After the Fox:

Powell: "I wonder what's the matter with my stomach. What did they put in that lasagna?
Manager: "Lasagna? At your age it's hard to digest corn flakes."
Powell: "What do you mean, "at my age?" Just take a look at this." (Looks into large wall mirror.) "I've still got the pupils of a young boy."

Christopher Marlowe,

What about the fic ideas? *g*


VampSlayer,

The glitter adds a touch of sparkle to the dust.


WG

wolfguard Yes, that's the video. Quite good, I thought.

wolfguard There is a similary between Edward and Angel. Both are broody and both thing they are bad for their girlfriend.

Angel doesn't sparkle though.

Happy Birthdays to:

Amarra
closeyoureyes
LittleDemon
poohbee
Rufus
sassyeggs
sunshineprincess



CaughtNtheQuiet:

True. Was just "chumming the waters" to see if you were around :-) How ya been?



Menomegirl:

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.










Edward: Buffy, I've brought you out to this beautiful clearing in the woods to show you something. Something that might...upset you. But I care for you, and I trust you, and I want you to see me as I really am.

Buffy: Um, ok.


*Edward takes off his shirt just as the sun peeks over the trees, illuminating his clean shaven chest and rippling young male body that seems to be something carved by the Gods themselves. Then, as he turned slowly, revelaing himself to the growing light, Buffy is almost blinded by the glittering light that cascades off his body like diamonds.*


Buffy: *long pause, expressionless*

Edward: Buffy, I think I lo...

Buffy: *breaks out in giggles, which turns into full-on laughter that racks her body so hard she snorts out of her nose*

Edward: Wha...? What's so funny? What's...?

Buffy: *in between hard, gut wrenching laughs* I'm...sorry...it's...just...*waves her hand at him dismissively, turns and starts to walk away* Oh, my god...never laughed...so hard in my...life...**her laughter echoes in the forest trees as Edward stands alone for a few minutes, before slowly putting his shirt back on*

Christopher Marlowe,


Wait, you're Buffy? Not Bel ... (YouTube)


WG

wolfguard I love the 'And Then Buffy Staked Edward'. I think there is even a video too. *g*

Menomegirl,

No, just checking the Bronze's temperature. *g*


Mrs. Beasley,

LOL

For one summer fanfic contest, Algerina sent me a "And then Buffy staked Edward. The End" button. *g*


WG

Beldin I used to listen to Justin Wilson on the radio in the mid 50s :)

The Kroger here carries Buffalo from time to time. I also have a source of Elk meat. Mutton I do not really like.

A real exotic meat would be Panda.

Comma

wolfguard, Beldin Just heads up. I will be out of town in September 2nd through the 4th for that Dragoncon event in Atlanta, GA.

I'm actually planning on buying a laptop so I can still post on the beta if there is wifi anywhere there. That's how addicted to the internet I am. *g*

Happy birthday to Amarra,
closeyoureyes, LittleDemon,
poohbee, Rufus, sassyeggs &
sunshineprincess!

Yay! morella!

checks wolfguard's temp
...

You feeling sick, dude?

:)

Leather Jacket,

"Erudite" suggest book learning, *g*, and such does not always take one far in politics. Tip O'Neill once said the most intelligent president he had known was Jimmy Carter, but that Carter had not been a very successful president. OTOH, LBJ was not known for being an intellectual, but he had been a very succesful Senator, Whip and Senate Majority Leader. As president, he was successful in seeing his domestic programs implemented. His failure was his handling of Vietnam.¹

What are the necessary traits to be a successful president?

1. The ability to assess people's desires and abilities. Is this person being straight with me or not? Does this person really know what they're talking about?

2. The ability to persuade the mythical "American People" to put pressure on their represenatives to push this or that program or policy.²

and/or³

3. The ability to work the political system to push this or that program or policy.

4. The ability to do the above across different time periods, i.e. a crisis, year, eight years.



¹ LBJ's passion was for domestic policies. Vietnam overwhelmed him.

² And one hopes said programs and policies actually accomplish the accepted goal. For instance, a president might decide we should go to Mars, sell the policy, see it implemented successfully - at the cost of other goals. More on this later. *g*

³ Some presidents are good at the podium, bad at the mechanics. For others the opposite. The key is to have others who can cover one's weaknesses.


WG

Dozed off for a little while there....

That went longer than I expected!

ETA

wolfguard You made it three posts in a row! *g*

The Art Experience was interesting. They set up a number of booths so kids could do some painting. A traditional booth with brushes and canvases. When the canvasses were done, they were stapled to a larger board.

The other booths were designed for a wider range of abilities. You could roll marbles through splotches of paint on a large piece of paper to make art. There was also a simple device where you put in a coffee filter, some dollops of paint and you could spin it to splash the paint about.

I was there longer than I expected because I was asked to help out at the traditional art booth.

I love Kolomoki Mounds Historic Park near Blakely, Georgia. I went there first as a child of five and several other times when I was still young. Kolomiki has two large lakes on the grounds. Since it is a Georgia State Park, one can camp and fish there, but one cannot swim in the lakes. There is a huge sign, sticking out from the water, that says, in red on a white background, 'NO SWIMMING'. About fifty feet behind that is another sign, a very small sign, that is black lettering on a white background, that says 'Beware Alligator'. I'm not sure if that means 'a' gator or a group of gators. But I guess one is enough to stop swimming.

All do know that I am now calling Southern Bama trying to find who has gator meat in the freezer. I am heading south, tomorrow night, for a gator bar-b-q. I may even get a wild pig in there.

Comma

Buffy & Edward 4Ever! (ETA Someone cared!)

Just to see if anyone cares. *g*

WG

Leather Jacket,

Which politican could not find the door? More later.

On the soda math. My bad. I was using 60 cents/can and 60 min/hr and probably switched units. Also was using a minimum wage rate of $7.25/hr.


WG

Beldin,

~ no damn shoes!

LOL


WG

DaddyCatALSO - You must have watched his cooking show.

Christopher Marlowe Comma Lamb is considered exotic now?

Of coruse with no kitchen eveyrhting is exotic; I've been dying for over a eyar for some lingijne with garlic and oil, maybe some Parm.

Beldin I can hear him saying that. Sigh. "You can always add moah but you play hell t' take it back out agin."

Here now.


DaddyCatALSO, Comma - Justin Wilson told a similar story about a Cajun whose wife kept on and kept on with, "I want some alligator shoes. When are you gonna give me some alligator shoes. One day he sees an alligator crossing the road and chases him into the swamp. He wrestles the alligator until he wears it out (left out some fight description). He said, "I turn him over and you know he hasn't got on one d@mn shoe."

Christopher Marlowe

I have no first hand knowledge, but I bet if you put some in the crock pot and cook for 6 or 7 hrs they'd be pretty darn tender!

cc
Comma

Comma The most exotic meats I've tried is lamb and buffalo. Both were good as I recall.

Beldin, wolfguard I'm off to go to something called an 'Art Experience'. Not sure how long it will be, but I imagine no more than an hour and half.

I will be back home and posting. Maybe throwing some ideas of the Buffy/Angel fic at you for comment. *g*

Comma I understand that crocs/gators can be tender mothers.

abt The closest I have to biscuits right now is some fig newtons in the drawer.

I can't watch youtube at work, they block access to stuff like that.

Comma Good point, and sheer common sense IMHO. I think that makes it a dumb joke (along the lines of the cook who was so tired of having her good tablecloth dry-cleaned she started adding cleaning fluid to her gravy) but doesn't take it to the category of what I call an "un-joke," which just plain isn't about what it seems to be about. ("Mu rphy Brown is a fictional character.")

Christopher Marlowe - do you have biscuits with your tea?

Tea Time is Earl Grey with Lemon! The good stuff this time.

About the blond joke that started this all: A person who would go into the water, with a shotgun, to hunt a gator, would have a new nickname real quick. Lefty or deadone comes to mind. Gators have very few thoughts. Eat, find mate, nest, protect nest, eat,...etc., about covers it. I do not mind being around gators. I do want to know that they are there.

Comma

Daddycat/Comma/Valmichael:
I've eaten monkey before, in Panama. At least I think I did.* Just a taste and it was VERY BAD. Not recommended.

Do I win? :-)

*That's what the roadside vendor told us it was, anyway. He'd cubed the meat and had it roasting on sticks so I can't really be sure.

I'm getting so much Spam lately. My computer's cholesterol is thru the roof.



_________________________________
(walkign back)
Spike: You sure you're not interested in politics, Slayer? I think you'd make a great Toastmaster General.

Buffy (mildly exasperated but amused): William, I'm too young to get that joke.

Willow (running uphill to meet them): guys, you missed it. We elected Wesley President, me Vice-President, Anya Treasurer, Cassie Recording Secretary, Amanda Parliamentarian, Tara Purser, Faith Marshal, and Lorne Morale Officer!

Christopher Marlowe, RedCrayon - Sherlock is here, watch it quick before they get caught.

CQ: About your boot questions.
http://www.sheplers.com/

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Sports
Question: Who was the first President to throw the Opening Day Baseball?
Answer: William Howard Taft

Trivia Coaches: Mrs.Beasley, valMichael
Trivia Bat Boys/Girls: Leather Jacket, neonate

Thanks for playing guys!

Happy Birthday to
Amarra, closeyoureyes, LittleDemon, poohbee, Rufus, sassyeggs, sunshineprincess

yay Morella

Trivia Girl Well, it wasn't George Washington. :) (for once)
William Howard Taft was the first president to throw out an opening day baseball.

Comma don't think i've ever eaten Gator (GO GATORS!). Rattlesnake is good, though.

Comma Store-bought gator is expensive atround here if you can even find it. The onyl time I had it was at Epcot in a sausage. I've never had ostrich at all.

Alligator is still used as any other animal hide is used. No dealer of clothing grade hides would be without gator. Gators are also good to eat. Someone down home gives me one every few years. I bar-b-q it. Gator tail is as good as a good steak. No, it does not taste like chicken. Sweeter than snake.

Comma

Beldin I knew I could count on you. *g*

DaddyCatALSO I never saw the appeal of alligator anything, be it shoes or purses. I suppose it's like fur. More status than attractiveness.

Trivia Girl: Andrew "Shoeless Joe" Jackson, and he didn't just throw the ball, he threw the whole series.

CD Thursday: Arcade Fire, Funeral.

Christopher Marlowe - Could be helpful.

Trivia Girl
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits
William Howard Taft although it took a building crane to get him up the pitcher's mound.

Christopher Marlowe One of the ladies here at work posted it to all of us yesterday as "a bit of humor to start the day."
I wouldn't be surprised if they still used 'em for footwear. I mean, wild alligators went from "endangered" to "pest" over 20 years ago, and they are also farmed.

wolfguard : I'm not surprised that the intellectual / anti-intellectual dichotomy can be misleading. First, I abhor dichotomy because the world is seldom so simple. Second, an intelligent person can be folksy and a ... dumb ... person can be erudite, especially if someone is writing their speeches for them. But there's more to it than that. Does the person understand what he or she is saying? How does the person handle difficult questions? Can the person remember how to leave a room that he or she entered just minutes earlier? --- not that I'm speaking of anyone in particular.
Thing is, some people aren't willing to put in the work to observe these kinds of things. Other people don't care or actually like it when a person isn't intelligent.

To some people, there's no difference between profiling and stereotyping. I'm no expert, but I suspect profiling uses stronger statistical analysis and is more likely to be updated over time. Profiling intends to understand the whys of behavior, while stereotyping seldom moves beyond what's observed --- unless you count moving to rumor and legend.
That said, for a writer, when dealing with a minor character, stereotyping can be used to make a character who is clear, concise and, to a degree, predictable. Of course, the writer runs the risk of being accused of making a caricature rather than a character, especially if that's what the writer is doing.
And a final thought: stereotypes usually become stereotypes for a reason. It may not be a good reason, but for a lot of stereotypes (I hesitate to say, "all"), you can find a person who fits them.

wolfguard 2 - The New Post : When I was last working, I sometimes wished we had vending machines that served ice cream. (Such vending machines do exist.) Of course, I also sometimes wished we had vending machines that served what was actually in them instead of just taking our money.
In re your post about the cost of a can of soda in a vending machine, you have cheap less expensive soda machines. Here, a can generally costs 75¢ from a vending machine outside a grocery store or at the mall. OTOH, the Costco vending machine has 20 oz bottles for 75¢
Also, your math is off. If minimum wage were $7.50 (close enough to $7.25) and the can were 75¢, then you would work 1/10 of one hour (six minutes) for one can of soda. At 55¢, it's less than 6 minutes.

Comma : I do not remember vending machines accepting pennies before the USPS put in stamp vending machines.

Trivia Girl : George Washington. Of course, some people did ask why he was throwing a little white ball with red stitching, but all he'd say was, "Just you wait. It's going to be HUGE."

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Sports
Question: Who was the first President to throw the Opening Day Baseball?

Good Morning Everyone,

YAY MORELLA

Christopher Marlowe: Best Scene EVER!

RTBS: Nonsense--I rolled plenty of 5s and 6s as well. Just not at many as you.

Beldin: HEHEH.

KAM
Ty King Fan

Menomegirl, RTBS That's a good interview. I'm really interested in trying out Rattlesnake Steak now. *g*

let's hear a great big bronze cheer for morella!

yay morella!


Happy CD Thursday!

A belated Yay, Caughtnthequiet!

Now, dear, evil is still afoot. Get back to work.

Good morning all. Off to work in a few. Believe it or not, as the tenps are nearing 100 everyday, I am slowly starting to set up the heating products. While I have the blueprints, and the planograms, for the Christmas set, we have not seen and product as of yet. It should start streaming in a few days from now.

All have a good one.

Comma

RTBS-I saw that interview
earlier today. Your friend asked
Christian some interesting and well-
phrased questions.

quick slip-n-slide through

Hi all!

Thanks for the Yays! Gives me the
warm fuzzies.

and... VampSlayer You
disappeared before I did... ;)

Howdy. I know I don't get around here much lately, but a good friend of mine recently did an interview with Christian Kane that I'd thought I'd share with all the Buffy folks. It's a fun read.

http://www.intrepidmedia.com/column.asp?id=4138

I'd make it a fun and colorful link but I have forgotten how.

Feel free to pass it on to your friends in other places.

Hope you're all doing well. Except for KAM. A pox on him and his magical dice that roll 1s and 2s for him and nothing but 6s for me!

RTBS
Have a day. A nice one if you like.

white wings-{{{hugs back}}}You
were very busy. :)

VampSlayer-*gasp* You insulted
Ruffy? *bap*

Also, another vid link, you guys.

Awesome Fanvid of Awesome:

The Dance.

I love that video.

Happy Birthdays to:

ACOLYTE,
Amaltheia
atalantis
baby2
Cthulhu
Fate_Blaze
greengirl
Heather
Jubilee
Kaseyk
Serendipity

and YaY CaughtNtheQuiet, wherever you may be, I hope you're doing well hun.





Foot Tapper:

Hiya and thanks!




*narrows eyes at Menomegirl*:

I don't need that stinkin' card anyways! :-) The day I need a card to feel manly is the day Buffy marries Riley...




Speaking of Riley, he's got a one-shot comic coming out focusing on his adventures in the 'verse and explaining his role in S8 Buffy.



And no one cares less than I!

;-P

Long live Buffy/Angel!!!

DaddyCatALSO Where did you get that alligator story? Do they still make the real thing?

Must get up earlier than normal tomorrow so it's time for me to head out. Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.

Yay CaughtNTheQuiet!


Happy Birthday Greengirl!



DeadGuy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

Pick your role - if you had had your choice of episode/scene to be an extra in, which would it be?

The final fight scene in Primeval or the episode Checkpoint or anything in Hush. *g*


Good Night to All

WG

Christopher Marlowe - That would be the way I'd go, of course. But, I'm aware that not everyone likes Linux. Don't know why but I am aware. *g* If you have enough free disk space, you can install Ubuntu with your Windows and have a dual boot system. The boot loader would give you a choice at startup. ETA: Or, buy another disk drive and install Ubuntu on it. You can test Ubuntu out, you know. Download it, burn it to cd and you can boot and run from the cd. It'll be slow as molasses but it will give you a feel of how Ubuntu works.

Beldin Now that I've got my computer back, a friend of mine is persuading me to take preventive measures using Linux/Ubuntu. *g*

Menomegirl - I've missed some things while I was gone. {{{hugs}}}

Christopher Marlowe - Bottles don't do any good any more. I've been watching Watchmen and a couple of episodes of Blood+ Part 2. I needed to get some of these DVDs shipped back.

Christopher Marlowe,

Beldin may be out looking for bottles. *g*

WG

wolfguard The trouble with that is if the idea is to tax it to death, soon there wont' be anything smokers, drinkers etc, left to tax. *g*

Beldin You;ve been quiet. *g*

Christopher Marlowe,

If a government provides health care to its citizens and some of those citizens smoke, then I've no problem with those folks paying a tobacco tax to cover the likely cost of future tobacco-related illnesses. As you noted, such taxes might not be dedicated to health care. It's possible such taxes fund Vegas. *g*


WG

Good night all.

Comma

Christopher Malrowe It can be some work indeed. :)

I'm in a 25 man raid at the moment. :)

valMichael What's new with you? I hadn't realized how tricky the Birthday list could get. *g*

Happy Birthday to: ACOLYTE, Amaltheia, atalantis, baby2, Cthulhu, Fate_Blaze, reengirl, Heather, Jubilee, Kaseyk, and Serendipity!

Yay caughtnthequiet!

Trivia Girl MI5 (British Secret Service)

deadguy QOD none of them :( way too dangerous.

wolfguard I bet a lot of states have a 'sin' tax on cigarettes. I think we have that here too, but I'm not positive what the money is earmarked for.

Yay caughtnthequiet!

Happy Birthday ACOLYTE, Amaltheia,
atalantis, baby2, Cthulhu,
Fate_Blaze, greengirl, Heather,
Jubilee, Kaseyk, Serendipity!

Red Crayon-Yes. In the last
couple of years, I have lost my
youngest sister and both my parents.

Ranger,

I've never smoked, but I believe the current price of a pack of cigarettes runs around $5 in the states. There's probably a bit of variation based on state taxes and whether or not the cigarettes are generic or brand.


Christopher Marlowe,

What I see smokers do when prices get too high is to buy in bulk or move to generic brands. Most of the people I've known who have quit, or tried to quit, did so because of a significant other or a related health problem. I do know one woman who just decided one day to quit and did so. Ten years after successfuly doing so, she says she still wakes up each morning wanting to smoke.


WG

Yes one can still buy cigs on post. The price on post, now, cannot not be cheaper than the price, without sales tax, off post. That is the same with products that contain drinking alcohol. Laws were changed by Congress, in the eighties and the ninties, to stop the black market trade around military post. Plus, to stop the use of tobacco by military personel, and to stop the abuse of alcohol.

When I retired, in 1991, I could have a ashtray on my work desk. Now one must smoke outside the buildings.

The big change, from my time, is when a recruit reporst for Basic training, they cannot use tobacco products or drink alcohol, until they complete training. When I went through basic, we had a place, in our footlockers, to store tobacco products. We also took breaks, ten minutes every hour, to smoke, drink water, and use the latrine. Every Battalion, in basic, had a small weekend bar that one could by beer at. We also had bets, between the platoons, on who did better. The payoff was a beer each. Times have changed.

Comma

Christopher Marlowe
Most of my money is
spent on alcohol and
cigarettes. Its what keeps
me sane at the moment!
That and my friends. And
Buffy!

Ranger I seriously wonder if the price of cigs actually makes people quit. I don't think it has dented alchol at all.

Comma a pack of
smokes here costs me
around 5 to 6 pounds. Crazy
s**t

Yay caughtnthequiet!

Happy Birthday ACOLYTE, Amaltheia, atalantis, baby2, Cthulhu, Fate_Blaze, greengirl, Heather, Jubilee, Kaseyk, Serendipity

It's hard to concentrate. I have one ear in to a conference call at work. But I can't help the problem. I've not the authority, the access, or the training.

What? Someone just fessed up to changing a router. He says it should have been harmless, maybe it was, but it was a change. I wonder if this was brought up before. Hmm. I don't think they know I'm here. It's probably a dry hole. Maybe I'll keep eavesdropping.

Christopher Marlowe,

Cans were tougher in those days.


Beldin,

LOL. As I remember, deposit on a bottle ran around 3 cents. Given a ten cent coke and a ten cent candy bar, then I'd need to have found and turned in seven bottles. *g*


WG

Comma Do they still sell cigarettes at military posts?

In 1971 I could buy, on military post, a pack of smokes was $.12 and a can coke was a dime. Into the late eighties, I was still paying $2.50 for a carton of named brand cigarettes. When I quit, in 1998, a carton was over $8.00 for no-brand smokes. I do not look these days at the cost.

Comma

wolfguard - How long did it take to make enough money for a soda and a candy bar? Thirty minutes to an hour of picking up bottles from the ditches.

Beldin A interesting take on turning yourself in!

wolfguard Caps! Yes! I still remember what old can openers were like.

I rember the kind of tab on cans of soda were you pulled/peeled the tab away, instead of lifting it.

The vending machines I like here ar the soda machines where soda costs a quarter a can. They once tried to increase that to thirty cents and there was almost a revolt. *g*

Six 1/2 oz bottles of coke? I mostly remember 10 cents for a coke, but have vague memories of a nickel coke. No memory of anything in between 5 and 10. I do remember when the prices went up to 15 cents on some bottles, the bottles got larger, ~ 10 oz.


WG

When a 6 ounce coke cost $.06 from a machine, what went in first, the penny or the nickle?

I remember.

Comma

Christopher Marlowe,

We called the tops, 'caps.' *g*

The coke machines would have a built-in bottle opener.

Where I lived, the 'bottlers' began the transition from bottles to cans in 1970. The price of a bottle of coke ran around 10 cents.¹ The new cans were 20 cents. Who in their right mind would pay 20 cents?! Well, of course we did.² When you opened a can, the tab came off. Some people would collect the tabs and make chains.

These all seem cheap prices, but the question is how long did you have to work to earn the money to pay for the soda? In 1970, I made $1.80./hour as a lifeguard, so I would have to work ~ seven minutes to buy one. Today minimum wage is around $7.25/hr. The vending machines I tend to use charge between 55-65 cents for the same size can, so one would have to work around twelve minutes to buy a can soda. Based on this sample of one and crude calculation, a person being paid minimum wage is almost paying twice as much for a can of soda today as in 1970.

(ETA Convenient stores and vendors love selling chips. Chips have a high margin. A bag that holds 1 ounce of chips might sell from 50 cents to a dollar, maybe more. Since there are 16 oz, in a pound, such chips run $8-16 a pound. What's the price of a pound of ground beef? *g*)


¹ A small fountain coke cost 6 cents, a large one 15 cents.

² In Georgia in 1980, the price of a pack of cigarettes ran around 95 cents. People were complaining and saying if the price hit a dollar a pack, then they would quit smoking. *g*


WG

Here now.

wolfguard I never had a vending machine in high school. I do remember using a soda machine that dispensed glass bottles of Coke with the top you had to pry off.

The cost of things from the vending machines has gone up too. Almost a buck just to get a small bag of chips peanuts.

Christopher Marlowe,

I remember vending machines with pull knobs. There also use to be soft drink vending machines that held the bottles by the neck on rails. You'd deposit your coins and then pull the drink along the rail to a gate that would open letting you pull it out. My favorite 'vending machine' was a shelf holding boxes of candy. You took your candy and left the correct change in the cash box.


Willow: (affectionately to soda machine) Old trusty soda machine. I push you for root beer, you give me coke. (frowning at Buffy) What do you mean, not go? Why not?

Graduation Day I



WG

wolfguard

1. What foods and drinks would you like to see offered in your local vending machines?

More healthy snacks, something other than chips and candy. Like maybe granola bars.


2. What foods and drinks were stocked in the vending machines at Sunnydale High School, c. 1997-1999

I'm not sure. There is a really old vending machine in city hall, where you have to pull a knob. I think back in Sunnydale, it was just all candy. Not sure about vending machines for drinks.

Save the Earth! It is the only planet with a known chocolate source.

Comma

Topic: Food for Coins

1. What foods and drinks would you like to see offered in your local vending machines?

2. What foods and drinks were stocked in the vending machines at Sunnydale High School, c. 1997-1999?


WG

Christopher Marlowe - wake up and download Sherlock!

Tea Time is Lady Grey with lemon. Two great tastes that taste great together. Needs more caffeine though, I'm starting to doze off here at work.

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Bond, James Bond
Question: What secret service agency did Bond work for?
Answer: SIS or MI6

Trivia Ms: wolfguard
Trivia Qs: Leather Jacket, neonate
Trivia Moneypennys: Mrs.Beasley

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wolfguard Sounds like the Daily Kos went quite far afield to support the health care mandate. I had never heard of that particular act before!

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It looks like it was limited to white male citizens, 18-45. And that if there are insurgents or rebellion within a particular state, the president can call up militias from other states. It also appeared to be self-limiting to a certain number of years or sessions.

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Leather Jacket,

The Myth of the Rational Voter includes the results of a number of surveys. As I remember, one of the author's conclusions based on the surveys was voters did not always know what a candidate or politician stood for, but since he was ~ a decent person, he must believe what I believe. *g*

I'm not a fan of the intellectual/anti-intellectual dichotomy. It simplifies the way brains work. It's misleading by suggesting intelligence is articulation done well. And it's profiling - and we know profiling is EVIL. *g*

OTOH, profiling is just another name for logic in action. From experience I gather several cases from which I derive some general conclusions (inductive logic) and then later use those general conclusions or principles to understand specific cases (deductive logic).

And this is all a seque to asking what's the relationship between 'profiling' and 'stereotyping'?

I cannot remember Joss or his writers depicting a military officer other than as a stereotype. Joss' portrayals of the military show a man who had little experience of the military and has never bothered to research it. OTOH, Joss has been quoted as saying ~ research is for wimps. *g*

Every time I've watched Family, I cringe at how Joss chose to portray Tara's family. I've no problem with Tara's family being meanies, that was the crux of the story. I did have a problem with Joss deciding the easy way to establish it was to show them as country bumpkins. And this bothers me not so much for what it says of Joss, he's just one man, but what it says about how he sees his audience - they'll readily accept the portrayal. It works for them, because it matches what they believe.

Moving off the criticism, a question for writers: When is stereotyping appropriate?


WG

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Christopher Marlowe,

I did some quick research on your militia question.

First, an excerpt from the review of To Shake Their Guns in the Tyrants Face by Robert Churchill / University of Michigan Press (Amazon).

"...In reality the militia movement was neither as irrational nor as new as it was portrayed in the press, Robert Churchill writes. What bound the movement together was the shared belief that citizens have a right, even a duty, to take up arms against wanton exercise of unconstitutional power by the federal government. Many were motivated to join the movement by what they saw as a rise in state violence, illustrated by the government assaults at Ruby Ridge, Idaho in 1992, and Waco, Texas in 1993. It was this perception and the determination to deter future state violence, Churchill argues, that played the greatest role in the growth of the American militia movement."



Next, an edited excerpt from the review of The Art of Not Being Govern by James Scott (Amazon). I've included this case as a way to step away from our own parochial views.

"In accessible language, James Scott, recognized worldwide as an eminent authority in Southeast Asian, peasant, and agrarian studies, tells the story of the peoples of Zomia and their unlikely odyssey in search of self-determination fled the projects of the organized state societies that surround them slavery, conscription, taxes, corve labor, epidemics, and warfare ... This book, essentially an anarchist history, is the first-ever examination of the huge literature on state-making whose author evaluates why people would deliberately and reactively remain stateless."



The following was one result from searching 'militia movement.' Its author would probably identify himself as a member of the movement.

'The Rise of the Militia Movement' (www.barefootsworld.net)



Follows the Anti-Defamation League's page on 'The Militia Movement'



Finally, something I found interesting as an example of how people argue their points. First, the Militia Act of 1792 (www.constitution.org). Wikipedia's article on the act speaks of it being a presidential order or directive to create a military capacity for the country. Apparently, the act requires citizens to purchase arms (I did not read far enough to know which citizens, etc.). In a March 23, 2010 post The Daily Kos references the act as a counter to those saying the federal government cannot require people to buy health insurance.

When we need a fire bad, we gather whatever fuel is at hand. *g*


WG

Beldin : You're welcome, and thems the risks of posting here.

wolfguard : Yeah, I probably wouldn't care about the anti-intellectuals if they voted the way I wanted them to. Maybe if I were more bombastic, or told them, "God says so."

YayOfTheDay Angel Wednesday Memorial deadguy Question : Since it's Angel Memorial Wednesday, I'm going to stick with Angel episodes. In the episode Carpe Noctem (Angel switches bodies with an old dude), nightclub scene. Lots of leather. Mmm-hm.

Trivia Girl : I can't tell you. It's a secret.

DaddyCatALSO : Tsk Tsk. That's how species get endangered.

Trivia Girl: The well-known Mr. Bond, as I am sure you will recall, works for Universal Exports, a perfectly legitimate private company.

James, I think someone is trying to blow your cover. Must be that evil lostinamerica on the prowl again. Remember how we almost had her cornered, that warm, dusty night in Cairo. If only you'd pulled your pistol instead of your...but then we all know your proclivities.

Anyway, contact me when you get the chance. We'll have to deal with this nosy Trivia Girl...

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Trivia Girl,

James Bond was a British civil servant working for MI6, aka Secret Intelligence Service.

WG

Scene: the shoe department in an upscale store.

After becoming very frustrated with the attitude of one of the Shopkeepers, the young blonde declared, 'Well, then, maybe I'll just go out and catch my own alligator and get a pair of Alligator shoes for free!'

The shopkeeper replied with a sly smile, 'Well, little lady, why don't you go on and give it a try?'

The blonde headed off to the swamp, determined to catch an alligator.

Later in the day, as the shopkeeper was driving home, he spotted the same young woman standing waist deep in the murky water, shotgun in hand.

As he brought his car to a stop, he saw a huge 9-foot gator swimming rapidly toward her. With lightning reflexes, the blonde took Aim, shot the creature and hauled it up onto the slippery bank. Nearby were 7 more dead gators all lying belly up. The shopkeeper stood on the bank, watching in silent amazement as the blonde struggled mightily and barely managed to flip the gator onto its back.
Then, rolling her eyes heavenward, she screamed in frustration...

CRAP! THIS ONE'S BAREFOOT, TOO

Trivia Girl
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits
Her Majesty's Secret Service. The UK's secret service, I think it's called M5 now.

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Bond, James Bond
Question: What secret service agency did Bond work for?


OldManFan It just occured to me I might have liked to be in the audience when Lorne performed in Las Vegas. But definitely when Darla and Lindsey sang.

KAM - I'm sorry, what did you say? I wasn't listening.

deadguy QOD - as much as I like KAM's choice, I would have liked to have been the cop writing the ticket to Marti in Once More With Feeling. On Angel, I would have liked to have been in Caritas when Darla, Lindsey or Lorne was singing.

OMF

KAM I know just the scene! *g*

Good Morning Everyone,

YAY CAUGHTINTHEQUIET

Deadguy QOD: Uh, yeah, again, Bad Girls! Won't anyone listen to me, when I say that that was the finest moment on Television EVER!? :)

KAM
Ty King Fan

Yay caughtnthequiet!

deadguy qod - I think definitely one of the funnier eps. Band Candy, maybe.

Once More with Feeling would be fun, I think. All that singing and dancing.