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Menomegirl says:
(Tue May 13 16:11:59 2008 71.30.181.127) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 16:12:59 2008
Revised version of the title thing-

Annabuphia The Hydra Slayer was a thousand miles from nowhere in Virginia, 1860. Information gathered from the diary of Martina OConnell revealed that she was workin' for the VFA, night after night.

Before the final farewell, there were strange days as a Slayer, with glitches aplently and insights galore until everyone ended up shellacked at Willy's bar as they sat at a table and traded Slayer Tales.

A not-so-funny thing happened on the way to from the theater and the soul cobbler was followed by the town freak. What the dormouse said was debated for quite a while and Make Mine Machiavelli! they ordered when the waitress came by.

They agreed that a star in the night sky was what Drusilla always saw or maybe a tree growing in Brooklyn in a time very far and as a new dawn approached, they lifted their mugs for a mutual toast. "For My Sister," they vowed before quenching their thirst.

Why the Slayer dies, that they all knew because when you're one of the chosen, you never know what's coming next. You'll fight until the end to beat evil back, to save many lives and the ***** of it is, most will never know why. You'll go to your grave after a short, remarkable life and the best you can hope for is to be remembered in a musty old tome of handwritten text.


CNQ-Thank you!

Octoquad-Thank you!

wolfguard-If we count my non-contest entry and the above title thing I wrote, it's exactly 22 stories. *weg*



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Tue May 13 15:43:15 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
valMichael I just got done reading the chapter on 'force fields'. The author describes on possible force field

First layer: a lattcie of carbon nanotubes
Second layer: curtain of high energy laser beams
third layer: supercharged plasma window.

The above wouldn't stop a laser beam.

The chapter also talks about magnetic levitiation. Using examples of Maglev trains and speculating about the possibility of room-temperature superconductors that would make 'anti-gravity' type devices.

Next chapter is invisibility. *g*



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Trivia says:
(Tue May 13 15:38:13 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits!

Category: Golf
Question: What is the special term for a bad golfer?
Answer: duffer

trivia masters: valMichael, Algerina, Old One, Dianne
trivia comedians: neonate, Leather Jacket



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Old One says:
(Tue May 13 15:34:35 2008 131.137.245.197|131.137.245.198) [Edit/Delete]
Yay werewolf123

Happy Birthday wishes to Arielle, babyvamp2, htaurus, newt, & shadowmom



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Octoquad says:
(Tue May 13 15:22:11 2008 69.89.161.232) [Edit/Delete]
YAY! werewolf123! YAY!

Happy Birthday to all Celebrants!

Happy Birthday newt!!!


I miss you.

Menomegirl: Nicely done.

84



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Menomegirl says:
(Tue May 13 15:17:43 2008 71.30.181.127) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday to:
Arielle
babyvamp2
htaurus
newt
shadowmom

Yay! werewolf123! Yay!

Good morning! The last entry for the second annual Bronze:Beta Sunnydale Library contest is I Know Why the Slayer Dies.

The story is posted without the authors name, anonymously for now, as will be all others, until all entries are posted. All comments are welcome-anonymous posting is enabled. Please stop by and check it out.

Happy reading!

Leather Jacket-Thank you! It was fun to write.

neonate-"little title tale"...Hee! I like that play on words!



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Tue May 13 15:16:49 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
Algerina The package should be winging its way to you in a couple days.

Happy Birthday Arielle, babyvamp2, htaurus, newt, & shadowmom !!



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valMichael says:
(Tue May 13 14:46:45 2008 76.31.190.123) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 15:35:22 2008
Christopher Marlowe RE: your list

  • Force fields - we see them described by what they do, but no one has any real idea as to what they could be made from or how they could be made
  • invisibility - work is progressing nicely on materials with a negative index of refraction so the light (IR, UV, microwaves) could be bent around you, making you invisible. The first demonstration of actual visual invisibility will probably happen within 10 years
  • phasers/death stars - phasers first: what phases? it's a generic nondescript name that conveys absolute no information; deathstar - if we could develop a particle beam weapon that would take a ship the size of a large moon to run it, sure, it's possible
  • teleportation, telepathy, psychokineses - here we know what we want to do, but we haven't the foggiest idea how (despite some reported abilities to do these, we have no idea how it could be done or how to teach someone with the innate ability to do it).
  • robots - Asimo is here! :) and more are being developed. This will happen (and is).
  • UFO - We have UFOs all the time. Now if by UFO you mean alien beings in space ships? I want hard evidence, not fuzzy pictures that are generally of something else.
  • starships - a matter of developing the technology, and having the $$$ and the will. Will we? It will be very expensive with a long range returns measured in multiples of decades if not centuries.
  • antimatter - we can make antimatter in our "atom smashers". :) Using antimatter to power something? Not unless the cost ($$$, payload weight, power output/unit mass consumed, etc) was so prohibitive of other power sources that the expense of making anti-matter was actually cheaper.


wolfguard Of all Heinlein's aphorisms, I think that one sums up how he thought the best, and I totally agree. Have you ever read the Notebooks of Lazurus Long?



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valMichael says:
(Tue May 13 14:23:00 2008 76.31.190.123) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Bronzers!

Happy Birthday to:
Arielle
babyvamp2
htaurus
newt
shadowmom


¡ Yay ¡ werewolf123 ! Yay !


deadguy Memorial Tuesday Question
pick a character who left either show (alive)... what are they doing now?
Oz wandered around until he found Nina in Hawaii! They had much in common so they got married, settled down, bought a coffee farm, and had a litter of cubs had a couple of kids. They have this special room in their house that they use 3 nights a month for ...


Trivia Girl Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits.
Category: Golf
Question: What is the special term for a bad golfer?
Answer: ME! (duffer, really)

SOs and {{{Hugs & Smoochies}}} to my seven Daughterlets: ANNE, Buffyenta, CHRIS, Garm, Icelord, SweePer, & Talullahdahling!
Special SOs to My Famlet The Asanti Clan! - visit the page!
and more SOs going to: abt, Adri, Agent Cooper, Algerina, Austin154, Beldin, Bossy the Cow, CaughtNTheQuiet, CharlieX, Cherby, Christopher Marlowe, DaddyCatALSO, Dianne, dudley, Ebdim9th, Erika Amato, Falco, Foot Tapper, Glow Boy, greeneyes, Hollyn, jitsudude, KAM, Kessie, keywe, Leather Jacket, lostinamerica, Masquerade, Maverick, Menomegirl, Morella, Mr. Emil, Mr. Whyt, Mrs.Beasley, MTVA( aka Muffy, the vampire annoyer), neonate, Niblet, notsoShyGirl, Octoquad, Ojagwers, OldManFan, Old One, ShadowQuest, shan, Slayerdaddy, Thoin, tiggy, TMorel, VampSlayer, werewolf123, wolfguard, and wolfguards_god_daughter

Trust the tale, not the teller! Joss, 12/15/98.



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The Birthday Gnome says:
(Tue May 13 13:59:41 2008 76.31.190.123) [Edit/Delete]
Today, Tuesday, May 13, Day 134 of the year 2008 CE
The Birthday Gnome brings you
FIVE (5) Birthdays!

Arielle
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newt
shadowmom

Birthday Happies all,
Happy Birthday to you today,
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Happy Birthday to you all, all day!
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¡ Yay ¡ werewolf123 ! Yay !

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neonate says:
(Tue May 13 13:58:37 2008 128.231.88.7|128.231.88.6) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Either George Bush. Oh wait, you said "bad golfer", not "bad Persian gulfer." My bad. Can I take a mulligan? That's a duffer.

QOD: Sweet hooked up with a demon named Sour, and they developed a line of eponymous Chinese soups and sauces.



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Old One says:
(Tue May 13 13:56:47 2008 131.137.245.198|131.137.245.199) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - duffer



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Algerina says:
(Tue May 13 13:54:15 2008 156.99.20.145) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Duffer



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Leather Jacket says:
(Tue May 13 13:51:41 2008 66.167.9.51) [Edit/Delete]
Okay, it's Tuesday. Were's my Buffy Tuesday Memorial deadguy Question, Mr YayOfTheDay? (taps foot ... not to be confused with Foot Tapper)
YayOfTheDay Buffy Tuesday Memorial deadguy Question : Graham joined the NFL as the star quarterback of the New York ... um ... Patrininers, but was recently outed when his lover was found murdered. The team decided not to renew his contract, but he may go back to being a wild life photographer.
Riley doesn't seem to have done much. He tried going into baseball, but nothing came of that.
Kate Lockley left the police force, got a law degree, worked for a while with the district attorney's office, but left under questionable circumstances.
Anything further would be a spoiler for the comic books.

Christopher Marlowe : For some reason, yesterday, I could not come up with anything that started with a P. It was a greatly perplexing status to be in, a grandiose puzzle of the synapses, but it was not a green pepper sauce.

Menomegirl : I knew it was something like that, but I wasn't sure how young she started out. I think a lot of people are so familiar with certain actors in older roles that they completely forget they were once children (or at least able to pass for them).
cc DaddyCatALSO

And I'm very impressed with your off-the-cuff story-telling ability.

Lest I forget, tomorrow's episode of Criminal Minds is titled Tabula Rasa. I wonder whether Joss gets a royalty.

Trivia Girl : A bad golfer is also known as a Leather Jacket, or possibly "sensible".



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Dianne says:
(Tue May 13 13:50:08 2008 72.152.212.251) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 13:50:49 2008
yay werewolf123!

lostinamerica -- SPOILER do we count Aaron?

TriviaGirl -- duffer.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue May 13 13:38:38 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
Yay werewolf123!

deadguy qod I'm going to pick Anne. She left LA for New York, setting up a youth shelter/theater group.

And now for

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits!

Category: Golf
Question: What is the special term for a bad golfer?



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Algerina says:
(Tue May 13 13:22:49 2008 156.99.20.145) [Edit/Delete]
yay werewolf123!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question
Oz bumming through europe with a band



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue May 13 13:16:46 2008 24.3.106.16) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for werewolf123!

yay werewolf123!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

sunnydale travel agency - all departures, no arrivals

pick a character who left either show (alive)... what are they doing now?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Tue May 13 12:56:30 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
[n]KAM[/b] McCain has attempted to say he's different from Bush. I don't think he is, though.

I don't see any radical change from any of the candidates. McCain is most likely to stick with the status quo.

lostinamerica I don't think that needs to be spoilers. My take on Ben is that he escaped the Dharma Initiative compound when young and hooked up with the Others. I don't remember why either.

There is a wikipedia on LOST. I might check there.



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue May 13 12:22:20 2008 68.53.116.70) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe--I'll have to get to those last two episodes by Thursday. One thing about the Oceanic Six--so we've seen Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid and Sun. . .who is the sixth? I'm not counting Ben, because it looks like, from the last episode I saw, that he snuck out and nobody knows he's back. Has he/she already been shown and I'm forgetting the sixth? I guess I'll have to watch those last two eps. Because if we're supposed to think Ben is one of the six and he really isn't there could be hope for Sawyer and maybe he's the sixth :)

Can you refresh my memory on something? I remember Ben gassing a bunch of Dharma Initiative people but I can't remember why. Wasn't he a Dharma Initiative guy? Did he band with the Others, is that what happened? I suppose that's why Widmore said he wants his island back--he was behind the Dharma Initiative and Ben took the island from him.



Ojagwers--Two more seasons? But it really looks like they're wrapping up things this season by telling us who's made it off the island. Though we know Jack wants desperately to go back. . .


*off to exercise*



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KAM says:
(Tue May 13 12:16:06 2008 69.5.41.43) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY...

Ojagwers: Overall, I agree with your breakdown. One note--I think Obama has enjoyed a very...inflated sense of popularity due to media coverage going back almost 2 years now, and while certainly that has translated into votes in the primary...it is still a primary.

DaddyCatALSO: The thing that cracks me up about Clinton and Obama voters is that, I can tell no real difference between them, despite the way Clinton has attempted to portray herself. Their positions are barely different, and nothing new in any case--despite all the talk about "Change." I heard the same prattle in 1992. Nothing new with McCain either, but he isn't harping on that.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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neonate says:
(Tue May 13 12:11:59 2008 128.231.88.4) [Edit/Delete]
Caughtnthequiet: CM seems to have seen the potentially fatal error of her ways and changed course. Good work on your quick and decisive response. You can tell Big Chill to, you know, come in from the cold.

Another apocalyptic crisis averted. It must be Tuesday.


Good morning, and how is your shamelessly-plugging self today?

CC: Christopher Marlowe, lostinamerica

Menomegirl: Fortunately, it's too late to enter you little title tale into the contest.



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CaughtNTheQuiet says:
(Tue May 13 10:04:43 2008 205.188.116.205) [Edit/Delete]
[non-shameless plug]

Chapter 2 - Xander's Dilemma is now posted at:


Willow's Promise, the happy ending Willow & Tara *should* have had

The Masque: An Erotic Renaissance

Majik's World of Fan Fic

What are you waiting for? Go! Read! Enjoy!

New Tuesday: Chapter 3 - Taramares



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Ebdim9th says:
(Tue May 13 07:47:51 2008 68.220.170.85) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 07:51:18 2008
ShadowQuest, 'Dearly Beloved, we are gathered here Tomorrow'...


Menomegirl, at least there're a lot of stories this time...



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CaughtNTheQuiet says:
(Tue May 13 06:37:24 2008 205.188.116.205) [Edit/Delete]
slips in after settling into work for the night

neonate have notified the Big Chill and she says she'll take care of the purchase of the deep freeze but I'll need to play it cool with CM until we can seal the deal.

Christopher Marlowe still good enough for me to plug not-so-shamelessly? *G*

Menomegirl wayyy clever *G*

Christopher Marlowe, Beldin Upon re-reading Fray I think she always had her powers...SPOILER (seriously) because Harth had been having the dreams that Mel never got...he knew what to do when the vamp - his name escapes me - bit him SPOILER

And... No way was Urkonn right. *growls*

In the MOVIE BtVS, they said the Slayer would always be known by her birthmark - the "ugly mole" Buffy had removed.



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Ojagwers says:
(Tue May 13 06:26:57 2008 207.200.116.199|207.200.116.7) [Edit/Delete]
lostinamerica, two more seasons of "Lost" after this one.

Ojagwers



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Tue May 13 05:06:13 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin I just hate sitting on a dvd for that long. *g*

buffyrat Yeah, it was definitely surreal and one of the best eps they've had. It reminded me of the finale from last season as well as the classic first season episode 'Three Stories'. When they think out of the box, they can come up with some pretty neat stuff.

Next week's episode looks VERY painful.



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Beldin says:
(Tue May 13 04:50:46 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
<Ty>

DaddyCatALSO - As I recall, Bobby, as the Iceman, palled around with Johnny Storm a bit. Hate to think they just dropped that. There were not many cross-team friendships in the Marvel verse and they made a good pairing.

</Ty>



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buffyrat says:
(Tue May 13 04:38:53 2008 76.200.157.243) [Edit/Delete]
House seemed kind of "Restless" tonight.



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Beldin says:
(Tue May 13 04:36:05 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe - I guess you're right. I'll have to think on it.

What's the rush with the DVD? There's no time limit. Keep it until you can watch it.




Time for me to head out. Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Tue May 13 04:26:33 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 04:28:08 2008
Beldin I returned my first Woodstock dvd yesterday and if I can't get to the second dvd tomorrow morning, I'll just return it and rent it another day.



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Tue May 13 04:04:26 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin The only other thing I think he could have done would have threatened Fray's sister. There doesn't seem to be much else that would have galvanized her.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 13 03:47:47 2008 216.77.100.72) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 03:48:14 2008
Yay Lazy Girl!


Yay Glow Boy!





Good Night to All

WG



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Beldin says:
(Tue May 13 03:34:17 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe - "Maybe Urkonn was right in what he did."   That's hard.



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Menomegirl says:
(Tue May 13 03:22:47 2008 151.213.180.58) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO-Thanks.

lostinamerica-Thank you! :)

Beldin, Christopher Marlowe-Hmm, looks like the S8 comics are gonna tie in with this nicely, I think. No, not done reading. (and I'm skimming past your spoilers lol)



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Tue May 13 03:13:50 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 03:29:15 2008
Beldin I sort of interpreted it as Melaka's abilities weren't fully expressed. Maybe Urkonn was right in what he did. He needed to kick something within Melaka up a notch, whether it was her abilities or her 'will' to fight.

ETA

Okay, enough with the Obama teevee ads!!!!



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Beldin says:
(Tue May 13 03:04:21 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe - Maybe there was more significance than I read into the fact that while Erin and her partner were saying, "She's lost it" Harth was saying, "She's found it." I assumed that what Harth was referring to was the will to fight, the will to *be* a Slayer. But maybe it was more.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 13 03:02:28 2008 216.77.100.72) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin,

...which you'd have known if you'd read it when I told you to...

LOL


The AND gate works for me. Until the Battle, there'd always been demons so only the dead Slayer condition needed to be met to close the gate.


WG



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Beldin says:
(Tue May 13 02:56:34 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe - "Found" is the word they used. But, yes, they and the Watchers knew there was a Slayer living and somehow had some means of finding her.



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Tue May 13 02:50:18 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 03:01:51 2008
Beldin It would be nice to know what triggered it in Fray. The demons in the comics were certainly aware of it when the slayer was activated.

ETA

lostinamerica I've been watching and enjoying LOST again. Haven't posted much about it, even on the Fuselage. Terribly worried about Sawyer though. He's not one of the Oceanic Six and I hate to know his fate.



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue May 13 02:49:40 2008 68.53.116.70) [Edit/Delete]
Menomegirl--LOL, that's wonderful, especially on short notice! Too funny!


Christopher Marlowe--Are you still watching Lost? I just finished the episode where Ben tells Widmore (sp?) he's going to kill Penelope, so I think I'm two episodes behind, but I've loved every minute of it. This season has been the best yet, characters falling everywhere, it's great! I assume this is the last season and they're trying to wrap everything up, or am I wrong about that?


*wait a minute, what's that noise, it sounds like. . .someone playing basketball upstairs. I guess that's my cue to check on the boys. . .*



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ShadowQuest says:
(Tue May 13 02:48:47 2008 65.73.65.7) [Edit/Delete]
Zoom through

Non-spoilery "Bones" thoughts:

Singing! Shooting! Intrigue! AI shout-outs! Cliff-hanger for next week's season finale!

Christopher Marlowe, Ebdim9th I have a vague idea knocking around in my head for a new "Buffy" fic. The only problem is...it's a bit of a...well, time-travel tale, I guess is the best way to put it. It's set a bit in the future, which...I try to avoid if at all possible. But I got this idea during the contest, and it just keeps whispering in my mind's ear, so I'll probably have to give in at some point and write it, just to shut it up.

Last night it gave itself a title - "Dearly Beloved" (Totally misleading) - and tried to write the opening scene. 'cept I was already in bed at that point, and there was no way I was getting out of bed to accomodate it.

Zoom, zoom



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Beldin says:
(Tue May 13 02:39:26 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 02:46:03 2008
wolfguard - We're not told who the last Slayer before Mel was but she was drawn in silhouette in a stance the former BtVS comics usually drew Buffy. What we are told, which you'd have known if you'd read it when I told you to, (*g*) is that there was an apocalyptic battle and when it was over there were no demons, no magic, left in the world. I do like the idea of the power repository. But for it to fit Fray's situation, the triggering mechanism would have to respond not only to the death of the previous Slayer, but also to the need for a Slayer.

ETA: In digital terms it would be like an AND gate or function: the Slayer is dead AND demons/vampires are rising.



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Tue May 13 02:26:43 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
Menomegirl In re-reading Fray, I have to say I like the artwork a good deal more than in Angel.

Beldin That's true. It wasn't a light switch moment like we saw in Chosen.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 13 02:15:51 2008 216.77.100.72) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin,

Probably 95% of what I know about Fray comes from you. *g* As I understand it, in Fray's world there has been no slayer for a long time (300 years?). I assume Buffy was the last known Slayer?

Anyway, here's my take - and not speculation, since I've no idea of Joss' ideas or plans on it ...

When Buffy and Willow activated the potentials, they used up all the power. Here're the details ...

The Shadow Men boosted the first chosen one with demonic power.1 It soon became clear that the chosen one would live a short and brutal life, so if they wanted their solution to continue, then they had to create a way for it to do so.

They had at least two ways to do so. The could teach another generation of Shadow Men/Watchers how to do the magick or they could create an an autonomous process that did not depend on human interference.2

I chose the second way for my 8th season stories. The Shadow Men created a ethereal vessel that holds the power. From the vessel ethereal umbilical cords reach out to all the potentials. When the Slayer dies, the power flows back to the vessel where it's routed to the next Chosen One.3

When Buffy and Willow empowered the potentials, they unknowingly emptied all the power for all time. The well's empty.4



1 Perhaps as they did with Buffy in Get It Done.

2 Of course, nothing made by humans is perfect, so one story idea would be for the process, over time, to begin breaking down. And though this was not my original intent, such a break down might explain the 300 year absence. Someone lost the warranty. *g* So the process stops and the future scoobies or watchers will have to do the quest thing. Remember the lonely Maytag repair man? Well, now he's been called. *g*

3 The potential chosen is the one who lives near the biggest brewing evil. Demonic power attracted to demonic power, the old magick belief of like attracts like. OTOH, the power Willow was shown radiating was different than the power the Shadow Men released in Get It Done. Details, details, details. *g*

4 OTOH, as each neoslayer died, the power might return to the vessel. Hmmm ... more stuff to work around. *g*


WG



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Beldin says:
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Menomegirl - Whew! *g*

I've not been reading the Buffy or Angel series.



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Menomegirl says:
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Beldin-No, the artwork of "Fray" is exquisite in my volume. I'm comparing it to the art in "Angel: ATF" (which frankly, has always bothered me.)

Christopher Marlowe-I realize that. But see, I also seem to recall an interview Joss gave (to TV Guide, I think) when the Buffy season 8 comics were announced. In the interview, he mentioned something about T&A artists and how he'd been fortuenate not to have worked with one.



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Beldin says:
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Edited: Tue May 13 01:57:49 2008
wolfguard, Christopher Marlowe - But what if there hasn't been a Slayer called in some 300 years? Just who's doing this calling, and how? ETA: There was a point where Mel said ~ "I've always been strong." There was never a point where she said, "I couldn't do *this* before." I'm really nervous about the Buffy/Fray crossover.


I've not read the remake, either.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 13 01:47:13 2008 216.77.100.72) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin,

Who Knows When LOL

I've not read Joss' redoing of Buffy: The LA Year (aka the movie). That said, it's hard for me to believe Buffy always had her powers, insomuch that she or someone else would notice her phenomenal speed, strength or healing powers long before she was called. I'm willing to accept that potentials had superior athletic ability, but not anything beyond the normal human range. Slayer power comes to the chosen potential only after reigning Slayer dies.

The Slayer is Dead. Long live the Slayer.



WG



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Tue May 13 01:41:00 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin I don't know. They knew Kendra might be a slayer based on a birthmark. So the concept of potentials existed even if they never called them that until season seven.

Menomegirl It was a different set of artists for Fray. And Joss has X-Men and other comics since then. So perhaps he doesn't remember that particular directive now or that it doesn't bother him quite as much?



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Beldin says:
(Tue May 13 01:37:42 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
Menomegirl - Sorry, I can't help you there. I have the individual issues of "Fray" and haven't read Joss' introduction to the graphic novel. And I have no idea what you mean by " ...Brian Lynch and/or Frank Urru never freaking read that or have the standards of the mighty fallen since "Fray" was created?" Please don't tell me they somehow changed Karl Molene's artwork when they compiled the tpb.



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Menomegirl says:
(Tue May 13 01:28:55 2008 151.213.180.58) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin-Opened it up and I haven't actually gotten to the comic part yet because I just got through reading the forward written by Joss Whedon.

In it, he says:

I had come to Dark Horse with pretty much one stipulation: No cheesecake. No giant silicone hooters, no standing with her butt out in that bizarrely uncomfortable soft-core pose so many artists favor. None of those outfits that casually-and constantly-reveal portions of thong. I wanted a real girl, with real posture, a slight figure (that's my classy way of saying "little boobs"), and most of all, a distinctive face. A person.


Flash forward: Angel: After The Fall.

So now I'm wondering....did Brian Lynch and/or Frank Urru never freaking read that or have the standards of the mighty fallen since "Fray" was created?



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Beldin says:
(Tue May 13 01:27:53 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - I'm still waiting for The Man From U.N.C.L.E.. Netflix still has it in the "Who Knows When" section of the queue but TV Shows on DVD says it was released by Time-Life last November.


Christopher Marlowe - I think she always had them. She just didn't know how to use them. This idea of "potentials" who "got" their powers is a Season 7 invention. It didn't apply to Buffy in the beginning and it doesn't apply to Mel.



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Tue May 13 01:19:34 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 01:21:42 2008
DaddyCatALSO I've been chatting with CNQ for a long time and I knew about Willow's Promise for a while. She was kind enough to email her story when she finished with it. I've been rationing my reading of the fic, and posting it a chapter at a time is a smart move.

Beldin This is for that webmagazine, sequentialtart.com I'm doing a bit of an outline right now. I'm not sure how detailed I should get, so I'm emailing one of the editors.

The point about how Buffy believed in her slayer destiny, but Fray didn't is a good one. I also think that Fray would have never thought she was 'just a girl' she had confidence in her abilities even before learning she was a slayer.

The only questionable thing is did when did she actually acquire her slayer powers? She seemed to have some pretty good ability before Urkonn showed up.



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Beldin says:
(Tue May 13 01:19:07 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - Wow. That's not bad *at all*.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 13 01:03:51 2008 216.77.100.72) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin,

I was looking at the season sets on Amazon. There're around $12 per season set, ~ 28 episodes per season.

WG



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Beldin says:
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Edited: Tue May 13 00:58:43 2008
wolfguard - That's not a bad idea. Here's an odd thing. Netflix has it but instead of releasing them as season sets as they normally do, they are in individual, four-ep discs picked out from the years 1966-1968. I haven't looked yet, but what you want to bet they're either Rhino or Time-Life releases? My money's on Rhino. They sure messed up the "Best of Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In" timeline.

DaddyCatALSO - "Amazing Adventures" sounds right. Hank got "rehumanized"? That's good. I always liked him best but didn't like his furry, blue form.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue May 13 00:47:37 2008 204.186.255.22) [Edit/Delete]
BeldinTeh Beast had a solo strip in "Amazing Adventures;" I think his was a full-book strip replacing the
Dr. Doom and Black Widow half-books. That was in his fuzzy form. He fought several opponents; he even found a way single-handed to beat Mastermind, Unus,and the Blob, albeit by strategy. I forget what replaced his strip but AMazing Adventures didn't much outlast that. Then he joined the Avengers afetr the Swordsman died. As I said, he wasn't in the reorganuzed X-Men buut in the mid-80s he and his erstwhile colleagues organized X-Factor, about when I got sick of it. H'ed been rehumanized by then.

MenomegirlSorry but i couldn't ignore such a good opener. But Iliked your effort.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 13 00:38:48 2008 216.77.100.72) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 00:44:17 2008
Beldin,

I'm thinking of ordering first season's I Spy simply to get the opening main title credits. *g*


WG



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Beldin says:
(Tue May 13 00:27:49 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 00:32:54 2008
DaddyCatALSO - I don't remember seeing that at all. I remember Hank in his own story, probably in "Astonishing Tales" or something similar, where he fought Juggernaut all by himself on Halloween night. And I remember Warren got his own "Avenging Angel" story. I think it was in the back of an X-Men mag. Then nothing.


ETA:
Menomegirl - Well, I wasn't going to say anything, but now that you mention it....

wolfguard - Groovy. (I've been watching 40 year old television shows.) I'll ask you again in a couple of weeks.



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Menomegirl says:
(Tue May 13 00:23:10 2008 151.213.180.58) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe-Thank you! That was challenging (especially doing it in the posting order), given the wonderful titles y'all came up with.

wolfguard-Heee!

Beldin-Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can like...hear you silently saying to yourself, "I can't believe she ordered Fray and hasn't read it yet. What's up with that?"



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue May 13 00:19:55 2008 204.186.255.22) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 00:24:06 2008
KAM OjagwersThere is a certain group of almost-cosnervative independent voters who go either way aprty-wise but don't pay much attention to most of the details of a candidate's philosophy. These people are open to McCain and noticeably tend to prefer Clinton to Obama because she seems to speak a language closer to their own than he does. Not sure how large this bloc is (In Philadelphia they used to be called Rizzocrats, other places have different names for them but they aren't completely the same as Reagan Democrats) but they will be at the very least up for grabs in a McCain - Obama contest & perhaps a McCain lock. But there are any number of other blocs out there,as you've pointed out.

Christopher Marlowe Considering CaughtNTheQuiet said she's not posting the second chapetr until tomorrow, that puzzles me a bit. Unless, and if so I'm honored to finally get to know you, the protagonist fo the famous poem "There was young lady from Bright."

BeldinAs I recall, the last issue fo the first X-Men run had them encounter the Hulk. Then it was cancelled a number of months, then brought back as reprints only.
Then they had a new idea,around 1977 or '78, and PRof X re-assembled them, the first couple issues being giant-size format. Hank was already in the Avengers so didn't return, but Scott, Jean, Warren,a nd Bobby did, along with the new team: former opponent Banshee, Wolverine who'd fought the Hulk and Wendigo before, Sunfire who'd also appeared before a couple times, Nightcrawler (Kurt), Storm (Ororo), Colossus (Piotyr) and I think that was it, then, off-hand. They put down a certain menace.
In the second issue, Warren, Bobby, Jean, and Sunfire, all of whom had other established lives by then, left. Scott stuck around as a sort of peer counselor to teach this gang of mavericks some teamwork. And Jean never went that far away.
After that they settled in with the new villains like the Hellfire CLub,the SLeazoids, Mystique's new version of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants,etc.

Menomegirl "[/i]The end was neigh, that they all knew[/i]" Aw, quit horsin' around. But, that w as fun to read, you came about as close as I'd imagine anyone could. You could probably get a Pulitzer Prize if you were working with titles to ELvis songs. cc Christopher MArlowe wolfguard



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Beldin says:
(Tue May 13 00:19:06 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 00:21:03 2008
wolfguard - The only thing I have on my "To Do" list is, "Make a 'To Do' List."


Christopher Marlowe - You mean for the publication itself, or for that web site that I've forgotten the name of again? I read someone at some forum once that said the death of <spoiler> (wolfguard and others who have not yet read "Fray", do *not* read this. Seriously.) Loo<spoiler> was a direct copy of the death of Merrick in that it galvanized Mel to fight as Merrick's death did Buffy. I agree with the person who pointed out that they are different in that Buffy believed but didn't care. Mel did not believe, nor did she understand.



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Tue May 13 00:12:50 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
Menomegirl I bow to your greatness! Wowsers.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 13 00:04:43 2008 216.77.100.72) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Nah, can't be done - oops! *g*


WG



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Menomegirl says:
(Tue May 13 00:00:07 2008 151.213.180.58) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 00:12:44 2008
Christopher Marlowe-How's this?

Annabuphia The Hydra Slayer was a thousand miles from nowhere in Virginia, 1860. Information gathered from the diary of Martina OConnell revealed that she was workin' for the VFA, night after night.

Before the final farewell, there were strange days as a Slayer, with glitches aplently and insights galore until everyone ended up shellacked at Willy's bar as they sat at a table and traded Slayer Tales.

A not-so-funny thing happened on the way to from the theater and the soul cobbler was followed by the town freak. What the dormouse said was debated for quite a while and Make Mine Machiavelli! they ordered when the waitress came by.

They agreed that a star in the night sky was what Drusilla always saw or maybe a tree growing in Brooklyn in a time very far and as a new dawn approached, they lifted their mugs for a mutual toast. "For My Sister," they vowed before quenching their thirst.

The end was neigh, that they all knew...although there might come an additional line or two because when you're one of the chosen, you never know what's coming next but hopefully one day you'll be remembered in a musty old tome of handwritten text.



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Mon May 12 23:59:30 2008 24.230.62.125) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard The first one.

Beldin I have some issues of Fray right in front of me. I think I'm supposed to do a comparison of Fray to Buffy for the upcoming 16th issue of Buffy.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon May 12 23:57:39 2008 216.77.100.72) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue May 13 00:02:45 2008
Beldin,

I've a long 'to do' list and items get reshuffled based on 'need to do.' *g*


ETA Okay, I've just placed an order for Fray. *g*


WG



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Beldin says:
(Mon May 12 23:29:27 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - Silly me. I thought you ordered it when you said you were going to.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon May 12 23:12:21 2008 216.77.100.72) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin,

Today, it appears as if procrastination has been my friend. I've not yet ordered Fray. Please don't bap me. *g*


WG



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Ojagwers says:
(Mon May 12 23:09:02 2008 207.200.116.199|207.200.116.7) [Edit/Delete]
Good afternoon and SOs to all here, especially but not only abt, Algerina, Amarra, amystar, angela, Aramina, Artie, AussieBullDog, Bossy the Cow, cabin7dad, Captain Chaos, CaughtNtheQuiet, Christopher Marlowe, Dachelle, DaddyCatALSO, Django, Dogmeat, Ebdim9th, 4paws, Foot Tapper, Genevieve's Lucie, Glow Boy, GothicAvenger, halfrek, helygen, Hollyn, Holy Water, HumVee, Irishrose, Jaan Quidam, Jocasta, judas, k8cre8, KAM, Kiba Rika, Leather Jacket, loop, lostinamerica, lucille, Luv_Lux, Major Wiggins, Maverick, Menomegirl, Morella, Mr. Holtz, MozzarellaDemon, neonate, newt, Niblet, Nirvana 1, Old One, OldManFan, paks, Peace Fire, Pfeifferpack, Phoenix, redwitch, Rikki, roja, Serina, ShadowQuest, Shan, SheBit, speare, Trinity, valMichael, VampSlayer, Watcher's Pet, white wings, wolfguard, Xanderella, Y_slaybelle and everybody else!

Yay Glow Boy!

Yay Lazy Girl!

Happy Birthday Birthday Persons!

4paws, welcome back!

Christopher Marlowe, neonate, you didn't ask, but nevertheless I'll tell -- the oldest thing in my fridge is in my freezer, a chocolate car (well, chocolate vaguely in the shape of a car, with a car-decorated wrapper) given to me as a gift I don't know how many years ago.

KAM, I am sure there are people who currently support Clinton who might vote for McCain if she doesn't get the nomination, but I think I've only (maybe) personally encountered one. Most of the people I know who support Clinton will vote for Obama if he gets the nomination. Not having seen a poll on this lately, I'm not sure how many people still genuinely have a wait-and-see attitude toward the November election, and of those, I think they'd have to be Clinton supporters who dislike Obama more than they dislike McCain, and I'm not sure how many people fall into that category. Obama supporters who dislike Clinton so much that they can't vote for her may just sit it out if Obama doesn't get the nomination, but I can't see them voting for McCain. I think it breaks down mostly into people who actually like McCain, people who will vote for McCain because he's the Republican candidate, Republicans who hate McCain so much they're sitting it out, people who really like Obama, people who really like Clinton, people who don't really like Clinton but are supporting her because they want a Democrat and don't like Obama, and people like me who like Obama, like Clinton, and in any case would vote for a toaster if that's what the Democratic Party nominates in November. :)

Ojagwers



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Beldin says:
(Mon May 12 23:04:55 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - I've held off asking 'cause I know shipping from TFAW is sometimes slow, but have you gotten your issue of Fray yet?



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wolfguard says:
(Mon May 12 23:00:32 2008 216.77.100.72) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Do you mean literally incorporating each title into the story or using each title as a plot point in a story or using an idea generated from each stories' title in a story? Something else?

The first would probably be hard, but the second and third not so hard.


WG



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Mon May 12 22:53:06 2008 205.141.66.16) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon May 12 22:56:50 2008
wolfguard Do you think a good mini-story can be made from the contest titles?

ETa\

Off to do more walking. *g*



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Mon May 12 22:39:49 2008 205.141.66.16) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin Gotta love bozos making fools and criminals out of themselves.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon May 12 22:33:46 2008 216.77.100.72) [Edit/Delete]
Menomegirl,

We're three stories from a season set. Let me write three more. *g*

WG



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Menomegirl says:
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Beldin says:
(Mon May 12 21:56:14 2008 72.26.24.27) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon May 12 21:56:37 2008
Here now.



4paws - Good to see you. Check out the paragraph and link at the bottom of this page.



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Mon May 12 21:54:03 2008 205.141.66.16) [Edit/Delete]
4paws Try contacting Make a Wish at their site? I would have assumed that if Make a Wish can accept donated airline vouchers from Frontier, that they have some account with Frontier?



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4paws says:
(Mon May 12 21:38:44 2008 68.116.142.230) [Edit/Delete]
Hey, all!
Haven't been able to even lurk for the past few weeks-- had to get a job, and am readjusting to the real world in addition to my company! And never let anyone tell you that checking groceries is a cush job-- even with computerized registers, it's physical too- I've lost 7 pounds in 3 weeks, and am acquiring biceps! :)
Reason for today's post is this-- I know several Bronzers have done things for the Make A Wish Foundation, and I need your help- e is under the name. I bought an airline ticket last month that's good for a year, but will not be using it. Frontier says they can issue a voucher towards a ticket for any charity I pick, in the same amount I paid, so I picked MaW. Anybody have a contact person there that can help me get this donated?? I'm confused as to how to proceed.. and so is Frontier- I spent 45 minutes on hold just to find out that I can in fact donate a voucher, but they don't know the procedure. Any help greatly appreciated!
Later,
4p



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Mon May 12 21:20:30 2008 205.141.66.16) [Edit/Delete]
neonate I'm not sure I want anything near your freezer or refridgerator

Dianne Might I suggest Cherry Garcia by Ben and Jerry?

OldManFan I wouldn't mind getting shorter horizontally, but not vertically.

Spikmeister 'Science of Dr. Who'. I'll have to put that on my list to read!

CNQ I actually managed to read more of Willow's Promise! *g*



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon May 12 21:20:06 2008 76.25.198.133) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe
ugh. Don't you know that diet is DIE with a T?



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Christopher Marlowe says:
(Mon May 12 21:08:56 2008 205.141.66.16) [Edit/Delete]
gargoyle I enjoyed the Iron Man movie very much, even though I'm not a fan of the comic.



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Ebdim9th says:
(Mon May 12 21:07:17 2008 68.220.170.85) [Edit/Delete]
I thought I looked at the SDLibrary list a little closerthan I did. I didn't realize my story had already been posted...



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neonate says:
(Mon May 12 21:06:02 2008 69.138.29.173) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe: Do you by chance need that drink chilled, on ice, or put int the cooler in any way?

CNQ: CM is playing the situation very coolly, talking about her die-t drinks. What's she worries sbout shrinking? She is clearly in league with LIA. You can never trust a South Dakotan Politico. So yes, tell Big Chill I hear you can get a very big, roomy freezer at Wal-Mart.

Although I prefer Target, myself.



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Dianne says:
(Mon May 12 21:03:42 2008 72.152.212.251) [Edit/Delete]
neonate, CNQ, Christopher Marlowe -- After my mother died a couple years ago, I went through and threw away a lot of stuff from the 80's and 90's. I just found a frozen "can" of frosting that expired in 2002. Now that I've thrown away EVERYTHING in my freezer, guess I can start over. Maybe buy a half-gallon of ice cream for the first time in months to celebrate



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wolfguard says:
(Mon May 12 20:54:48 2008 216.77.100.72) [Edit/Delete]
VampSlayer,

I saw the bumper sticker on the way back from lunch. Heinlein's quote was chosen by author Robert Bryce to place at the front of his recent book, A Gusher of Lies: The Dangerous Delusions of "Energy Independence (Amazon). And the cartoon I saw on friend's fridge the other night.

None were posted with respect to current politics, but since you bring it up. *g*

Thoreau's quote on truth made me think of Pontius Pilate's lament, "What is truth?" And then Colonel Jessep's, "You can't handle the truth." *g* Truth be told, one could debate the meaning of truth for a lifetime and often only get it when truth coincidentally jibes with belief. *g*

I do not automatically embrace unity or shun division, each has its place. Doctrine is a tool, not a goal. One must be careful in choosing the tool for the job. Never worship the tool. *g*


What's your "Common Doctrine"?



WG



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Beldin says:
(Mon May 12 20:37:52 2008 66.76.63.53) [Edit/Delete]
neonate - I wasn't that excited.



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CaughtNTheQuiet says:
(Mon May 12 20:25:04 2008 205.188.116.205|205.188.116.75) [Edit/Delete]
slides out for bedtime



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OldManFan says:
(Mon May 12 20:16:46 2008 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe - yes... you will get shorter.

OMF