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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 10 14:51:04 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay deadguy!

deadguy qod

I would imagine that Willow is a witch for hire!

Not sure how the other slayers are supporting themselves though, With the watcher's council gone.

Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!

wolfguard, white wings Ah! I just noticed that earlier post.



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Jan 10 12:27:38 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for deadguy!

yay deadguy!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale job fair - beyond minimum wage

how are the current batch of slayers supporting themselves... how about willow?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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white wings says:
(Wed Jan 10 06:19:34 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay neonate!

Happy Birthday Angelicious, Crybuffy, Jillian, and ShadowQuest!

wolfguard - I hope you get your internet back quickly. I hate being
without it myself.

Christopher Marlowe - It looks as though wolfguard is
experiencing technical difficulties.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 10 05:21:52 2018 209.159.255.231)
Okay..I will kill some time by catching up on what SCOTUS is doing.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 10 03:15:34 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Are you around?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 10 01:14:18 2018 209.159.255.231)
Ahh...finally home, spent most of the day in job search/resume training. Lots of useful stuff.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jan 9 22:38:13 2018 174.217.27.254)
Sunnydales trivial pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question:. Who did spike and Dru
assemble in surprise?
Answer: judge

Trivia LOL! Wolfguard!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Jan 9 20:26:13 2018 199.127.148.10)
Giles had already been in his study when the summons came. He rubbed his eyes a bit and when he opened them there was a raised platform of clear crystal on his desktop, a Mercator world map engraved in it, with dots of various colors, violet, scarlet, blue-green, yellow-green, and others, scattered in no obvious arrangement. He flinched a bit but kept his over-all composure and was not much more surprised when Cordelia herself appeared in the flesh before him. He rose and found himself smiling more than he ever would have expected he would on seeing her.

Oh, nice to see you again, Cordelia, care for a cup of tea?

Perhaps in a bit, this bouncing around in space and time is exhausting, Ill need some caffeine, fluids, and sugar soon.

He chuckled and said, Thats odd coming from someone who has transcended the bounds of mortality.

To paraphrase Travolta, Im not that kind of higher being. Anyway, the teal dots are all of you living or undead people; once any of you move in time or space theyll turn to a deep blue. The red ones are the departed joining in as your guides, the lemon-lime ones are any of the bad guys who are already near their targets, the purple ones are the champions, see, theres you. Look, I need to get going again, Ill send your main back-up later, but is it okay if I send over your assistant back-up right after I leave?

Why, yes, of course, but if Im monitoring this device shouldnt I have more details about . . . .

Gotta run, be back in a few, by your standards! said Cordelia and simply disappeared.

After about a second of being annoyed, Giles looked down at the crystal board before him. Some of the dots had already moved and changed color. Then he heard a somewhat familiar voice behind say Wow! and he jumped around, yelping Geez!

Harmony was looking around her and saying, If we could bottle that kind of traveling we could make a fortune . . .oh, hi Giles!

Good God, you mean when I told Cordelia it was alright to send my back-up, I was inviting you in.

Yeah, thats a roger, you all heard me tell her I was in. Problemo?

Well, for starters, Im not sure that youre not actually part of the enemy.

You heard what she said. Even if you dont trust me morally, my bread is buttered on the same side yours is this go-round. If you wont believe Id help stop them because its right, then trust me, Ill certainly help because it saves my own room-temperature skin.

Well, granting that, theres your ineptitude. How much back-up can you be?

Fair enough, look, Ive been training a bit, and anyway therell be some much stronger help on the way soon. Not to rush but I cant be sure how much time we have to spare and the only weapons I brought with me are a couple little wooden knives. Mind if I get one of those hunting knives out of your weapons case over there, maybe that big Bowie?

No, go right ahead, arm yourself how you wish, said the Englishman, not certain whether to keep being appalled or to chuckle resignedly over the whole scenario.

Giles was examining the scrying device. He held a wakizashi in his right hand and was using the base of a small cross of olive wood as a pointer in his left, holding it so that the crossed beams were visible. Harmony walked over with a grin, checking the balance of the hunting knife she had picked out as she did so.

Hmm, he said, I think Im getting the hang of locating people on this thing.

She looked at the cross and observed, Taking no chances, huh, Giles? Believe me, you dont have to worry about anything from me.

Well, for all I know, some of the creatures were expecting might dislike holy symbols. And I have to speak plainly, nobody has ever lost anything because they chose not to rely on you, Harmony.


Oh, I admit it, Ive been known to let people down and back-stab them, quite often over 23 years, but Im working on that.

Quite. Be serious, Harmony, ever since about five years ago, any capacity you ever may have had to work on anything became far more limited, if not moot.

She chuckled a bit at that, and answered, Really, Giles, that wasnt as big a deal for me as most humans or most vampires think it was.

He straightened to look her in the face. I dont recall your drinking much blood in high school, unless the Cordettes had some odd rituals Cordelia never chose to enlighten us about.

She looked right back at him and said, To be both serious and honest, draining the life out of people while being a sharp pain in the neck is what Ive done for most of my life, err, existence. Its just that, as a vampire, Im a bit more up-front about it, or, as you Brits might say, more vulgar.

Her expression and tone of voice grew a bit thoughtful, My Gram Ainsley used to love that word vulgar, and she knew just how to use it, too. She was a war bride, you know, grew up in Yorkshire, was working in London when she met my moms father.

Giles digested that for a second, then said, Well, finding that out was more interesting than I thought it would be.

She replied, Actually, Ive enjoyed talking with you, too, but wed better get set, I hear something in your front hall. Wish our reinforcements would get here



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 9 19:24:22 2018 71.56.125.67)
Drive-By


Trivia Girl,

I know! I know!

The Real Inspiration

*g*


White Wings,

Will read and try to reply tonight. Experienced network problems connecting to internet last night.



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jan 9 15:16:07 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who do Spike and Dru assemble in the episode 'Surprise'?



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Jan 9 15:00:55 2018 216.53.155.226)
Oh, and Happy Birthday ShadowQuest!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Jan 9 14:55:22 2018 216.53.155.226)
Yay! neonate!


Happy Birthday Thoin! The sun will
come out, tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar
that tomorrow, there'll be sun!

Hey, thanks for the help, annoying red-
headed kid!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 9 14:47:30 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Tuesday, January 9th 2018 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


Angelicious
Crybuffy
Jillian
ShadowQuest

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angelicious, Crybuffy, Jillian, ShadowQuest!



And the thing is, I like my evil like I like my men: evil. You know, straight up, black hat, tied to the train tracks, soon my electro-ray will destroy metropolis BAD. Buffy, 'Pang''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 9 14:10:58 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay neonate!

I can see all of the scoobies having a hard time. My impression is that everyone has lived their whole life in Sunnydale. Giles would certainly handle colder weather. If Anya was still alive, she would handle it too.


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Jan 9 11:19:28 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for neonate

yay neonate!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale weather center - just assume it will be sunny and warm

which of the scoobies has the easiest or hardest time adjusting to colder climates?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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Thoin says:
(Tue Jan 9 06:18:31 2018 67.184.109.57)
Edited: Tue Jan 9 06:20:01 2018
White Wings, every time I come in, I SWEAR I'm gonna be here more often. Still, if old friends are around at all, I really should. Nice to see you!

Thoin finishes her gingerale-and-lime and her cake and settles back, happily, on the Comfy Famlet Couch. She is relaxed and comfortable and...falling asleep.

Wise Bronzers reach for their earplugs. They know what happens next...


Sleepy-poof!



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white wings says:
(Tue Jan 9 05:40:08 2018 70.112.135.184)
Thoin - I haven't been here very often myself. It was just providential that I looked in on your Birthday and figured you might turn up for a drink and a chat.
Unfortunately I have to head off to bed, but I'm glad I saw you. I really hope you find some work.

The lurkage needed that cleaning a lot more than anyone realized.



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Thoin says:
(Tue Jan 9 05:26:40 2018 67.184.109.57)
White Wings, don't feel bad. As seldom as I'm here, you can't expect to keep up with everything. I would have loved to move back to Coloardo, but never managed it. Right now, I'm just trying to figure out how to make some money somewhere. ANY money. I have a friend who got me a foreign language play translation to edit and that was nice. It got me through Christmas. But now I'm broke again and looking for any kind of work I can find. With no luck at all. 'Til then, I'm stuck here in Illinois, in my sister's back bedroom. And, occasionally, the Lurkage...which needs a good cleaning!

Thoin drags out The Purse, roots in it and comes up with a giant box of Liv-A-Snaps. She finds the short-handled brooms still in a closet and manages to lash them to the tails of the dingoes dancing in the corner. Then she takes the Liv-A-Snaps and scatters them all over the Lurkage, finally loosing the dingoes to dance around and do their thing.

There, maybe the next person through there won't end up choking to death. Dusty in there. VERY dusty!



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white wings says:
(Tue Jan 9 05:19:45 2018 70.112.135.184)
Thoin - Well, so much for my mental powers and my skimming. I must have been confused by your talking about Colorado at some point and thought you had actually moved back there. But a roof and family are good.

My God, they pulled that off! Oh, sorry, just looked back at the game.



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Comma says:
(Tue Jan 9 05:11:10 2018 75.143.154.113)
Edited: Tue Jan 9 05:11:35 2018
ROLL TIDE ROLL!

CC



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Thoin says:
(Tue Jan 9 05:05:28 2018 67.184.109.57)
Edited: Tue Jan 9 05:21:17 2018
White Wings, no, I haven't lived in Coloardo for almost 30 years now. I've been in Illinois, the last 10 of them living in my sister's back bedroom. I've worked on and off for ages, but back in '96, things started drying up and by '98 I had to move in with my sister. I worked, briefly, at the Chicago Trib, but that only lasted 'til the Trib bought a weekly and let all their "freelancers" (who were actually stringers) go. Haven't worked since, anywhere. It's hell finding work when you don't have a car, especially writing work, oddly enough. So, other than working on a novel, I haven't been doing much at all.

Ooo! The Friendly Bartender sits a frosty gingerale-and-lime on the bar and nods grumpily at Thoin Thank you for the drink, ma-am! It is greatly appreciated! Especially since, I'm THIRSTY!

Thoin sniffs, and looks around and sees...a piece of cake! Omigod! Cake, too? I am overwhelmed! And it's delicious! Hands White Wings back her candle I know I can't say what my wish is, but I suspect Christopher Marlowe would know!

Christopher Marlowe, I feel your pain about the job! I hope you find something soon. Let me know if you do! (If nothing else, it'll give me hope.)



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 9 05:03:24 2018 209.159.255.231)
Thoin Not a whole lot. I got laid off last November and I'm still looking for work! Hoping the new year will turn things around.



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white wings says:
(Tue Jan 9 04:40:15 2018 70.112.135.184)
A paper airplane sails across the Bronze to land on the bar. On landing, it unfolds to reveal itself as a fairly large denomination bill with the message "Towards Thoin's bar tab, on the occasion of her birthday."

white wings goes to the pantry and pulls out one of the few remaining decent 2-step Angelfood cake mixes. * Mix, whip, whip, bake, bake* She presents the finished cake with a white frosting and one (1) candle to Thoin.


Thoin - I'm doing well, still in the same place, still knitting. No exciting activities, no exciting travels, but no exciting illnesses either. How are you holding up? Are you still in Colorado?



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Thoin says:
(Tue Jan 9 04:21:36 2018 67.184.109.57)
Edited: Tue Jan 9 04:25:07 2018
Christopher Marlowe,thank you, ma-am! What's happening in your world lately?

White Wings thank you, oh purl-y one! How's it going with you?

Agent Cooper Thank you, but...but...I'm unemployed and totally BROKE. I have nothing to pay my bar tab WITH. And the Friendly Bartender doesn't take winsome smiles as payment. (Trust me, I've tried.)

Maverick, thank you! That was quite bold of you! And I appreciate it!



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Thoin says:
(Tue Jan 9 04:15:04 2018 67.184.109.57)
There is a terrible sound, like long nails against a cracked blackboard, followed by a stange, strangled banging sound and a weird, steady scraping noise. The odd sounds come closer and closer and suddenly, in a blast of sooty dust, a figure emerges from deepest Lurkage. It staggars forward, coming, at last, to lean against the bar. The Friendly Bartender casually reaches behind him and comes up with a grimy bar towel. It has a number of holes in it, and has obvioulsy seen better days, much like the figure he hands it to. The figure applies the towel to it's upper portion randomly, until a grimy visage appears, still hacking and coughing.

It is Thoin. She tries to hand the now utterly filthy rag back to the Friendly Bartender, but he refuses, handing her a large sheet of clean white paper, instead. Well, it's sort of clean and white in spaces, where there is no writing.

Her bar tab.

Her shoulders slump as he goes back to wiping glasses and smirking slightly. Frowning, she turns and heads for the Comfy Famlet Couch, to scroll, perchance to find something worth reading...



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 9 02:33:55 2018 209.159.255.231)
Ya know, even I am aware of the Georgia/Alabama game tonight! And I saw a little bit of it too, the coin toss and Trump.

Good luck with the traffic folks!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 9 00:33:35 2018 209.159.255.231)
Happy Birthday Thoin!!



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white wings says:
(Mon Jan 8 23:45:46 2018 70.112.135.184)

Happy Birthday Thoin!



Yay Polgara!

wolfguard - I believe you are a Contrarian. *g*

When you said "I'm for decentralized power. I believe ideologies are innately dangerous. In theory, I believe individuals have the right to make and act on their own decisions. In practice, individuals live in communities and rights are social creations.", I agreed with you. In theory. ;-)

We'll have to agree to disagree (or to have disagreed during the campaign) about your specific examples of why you could not support Trump's candidacy. I do not think that the existing immigration situation is necessary for our economy, or rather, I believe the economy and society as a whole would be healthier for a dramatic change. Trade policies over many many years have created an extreme imbalance to the detriment of this country. That was probably partly deliberate, as an attempt to assist other countries, and partly extreme timidity on the part of our leaders and foreign policy "professionals". I applauded the suggestion of a change. I don't want trade wars, but it's not as though other countries are afraid of controlling our behavior with trade wars, such as when the Saudis tried to destroy our oil industry. So being afraid to move hasn't saved us. I did not, however, believe that Trump would (or could) actually implement the precise details that he was campaigning on.

I was clinging to a second hand account from a lawyer who once negotiated face to face with Trump. He had several conclusions:
a) At the negotiating table, Trump can be an well you know, not allowed by the board,
b) He is a brilliant negotiator,
c) His stated going in position may not be anywhere close to where he hopes to come out,
d) He could be a good president.

If point C is correct, that means that you can't actually depend on the precise details of his public statements. It means that they are at once broad campaign sound bites and statements to Congress and foreign leaders that they'd better think about some new ideas.

If there were the remotest possibility that being in TPP could have altered China's behavior, China would not have been in it, or they were in it to control our behavior without any intention of honoring any terms that would hamper themselves. It would have served to our economic disadvantage, while failing to achieve political gains.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Jan 8 23:17:50 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Music
Question: Pattie Boyd was the first wife which two legendary musicians?
Answer: Eric Clapton and George Harrison

Trivia Groupies: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Tuneless: Agent Cooper



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 8 21:50:48 2018 209.159.255.231)
Checking in!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jan 8 21:39:17 2018 165.225.38.71)
Wolfguard: I think economists do okay when they devise general theories about how economies work. It's when they try to make accurate predictions using those theories that they get into trouble. But we could say that about several other fields as well.


Happy Birthday Thoin! (Before you ask, no. No free drinks. You still have to pay your bar tab.)

Trivia Girl: David Bowie and Keith Richards.

Which reminds me, I watched a youtube thingy the other day and found out that Jim Henson actually wanted Micheal Jackson to play the Goblin King in "Labyrinth." But he couldn't commit. And when they couldn't get Jackson they tried to get Sting, but he wasn't available either. It's interesting to imagine the movie with either of those guys in that role.


In parting, I'll just leave this here, as a conversation piece:

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25152



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Maverick says:
(Mon Jan 8 18:36:51 2018 68.51.139.52)
Wolfguard: You are confused, sir. If I give the logical REASON for criticizing someone, it's no longer ad hominem. Like for instance, if I say Obama is an Islamic-centric Marxist who hates this country and wants to see it fail and who wants the country overrun with illegal immigrants so they will vote as Democrats, see, there are reasons. If I would just say "Yeah, but he looks stupid because of those ears," THAT would be ad hominem. Also, if I make stuff up about someone, like get some hack pyschiatrist to violate her professional ethical guidelines and say, without interviewing him, that Trump's crazy, THAT would not only violate the Goldwater Rule (they previously tried this kind of LIE with Barry Goldwater) but would be ad hominem.


Maverick


96 Tears




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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Jan 8 18:24:15 2018 199.127.148.10)
Comma Christopher Marlowe So, I guess Jerry van Asterisk is the first recognizable entertainer death of the year?



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Maverick says:
(Mon Jan 8 18:00:19 2018 68.51.139.52)
Trivia Girl: Pattie Layla Boyd believed she was married to either Boy George or George Michael, one of the George's.


Birthday Happies to: Thoin


Maverick


Monday, Monday




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wolfguard says:
(Mon Jan 8 17:57:29 2018 71.56.125.67)
Trivia Girl,

At the same time? *g*


Maverick,

You frequently employ ad hominem attacks though you believe they are justified by your reasoning.


WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Jan 8 15:53:26 2018 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
George Harrison and Eric Clapton



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Jan 8 14:23:09 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Music
Question: Pattie Boyd was the first wife which two legendary musicians?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Jan 8 14:10:15 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Monday, January 8th 2018 C.E.

We have Six (6) Birthdays!


Amber Benson as Tara MacLay
Angel lover
Bite Me
Goddess@Home
Pippin
Thoin

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Amber Benson, Angel Lover, Bite Me, Goddess@Home, Pippin, Thoin!



Fire bad. Tree pretty. Buffy, 'Graduation Day (2)'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 8 14:04:39 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay polgara!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Jan 8 12:07:56 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for polgara!

yay polgara!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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Maverick says:
(Mon Jan 8 11:25:30 2018 68.51.139.52)
Edited: Mon Jan 8 11:38:14 2018
shan: Yes, Libertarians ARE bizarre. They would defend to the death your and my right to pretty-much do any little thing our little hearts desire. The problem always crops up, though, that those whom they defend and allow to do anything: a certain group of them--the Lefty Group--takes that anything opportunity and organizes against the Libertarians to quash them, so the Libertarians, in their stupid magnanimity, support their own destruction.


shan, Wolfguard: I had a me-history that I was a staunch Liberal Democrat. I was raised by a union steelworker in a steel mill town in western Pennsylvania. Republicans were my enemy. Our local newspaper was named the Tribune Democrat. I was inculcated by Democratic reasoning (resentment) against the owners, the capitalists, of the businesses. Hell, when I was in High School and early college, I was a John F. Kennedy Democrat --still don't wear a hat, even in the winter--until he was assassinated and I worked in the local Democratic campaign headquarters of Hubert Humphrey or Lyndon Johnson. I was extremely sympathetic to the Civil Rights Movement and wanted great things for black people and couldn't understand why they were "discriminated against". I liked being a Democrat because, in that town, you were admired for your "feelings" and solidarity with the other workers. Still I had my misgivings and many things about the Democrat beliefs bothered me. The main thing that bothered me were the obvious lies--I mean, everyone knew they were lies, and yet they repeated and repeated them (even when they were disproved, they still repeated them.) Also, rather than being logical and sensible their "ideas" were more examples of resentment politics, and rather than arguing an idea or position, they would always--still do--provoke ad hominem attacks against an opponent. (An ad hominem attack. From the dictionary: "appealing to a prejudice, emotion, or special interest rather than to intellect or reason; against an opponent rather than against his arguments.") I was no dummy; in the 4th Grade I was on a local TV program, with a "GE College Bowl"-like format, answering factual scholastic questions and got them all right. So, but things always bothered me, like I would say, "Wait a minute, you mean Lincoln was a Republican and freed the slaves and the Southern Democrats were the slave owners and yet at some later time they switched parties?" and people at the time said, "Yes, that's what happened." The truth, of course, was that the Democrats were the party of segregation and prejudice, and the Ku Klux Klan was their military wing. (Dinesh D'Souza explains this comprehensively in his movie "Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party" and he further explains [in his book "The Big Lie"] that the Democrats shared their nascent history with Hitler's Nazis and Muslolini's Fascists.) There were many other inconsistencies that prompted me to leave the Democratic Party (as Reagan also had) and maybe I'll expand on this at some later time.


Maverick


Jesse's Girl




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Shan says:
(Mon Jan 8 07:19:18 2018 49.197.42.128)
There's nothing you can say
"maverick".

I've spent the last couple of years
honing my skills against apologist
Republicans and the even more of a
fringe group, libertarians.

You're strictly amateur hour in
comparison.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Jan 8 06:35:06 2018 71.56.125.67)
Maverick,

I had a very good friend, he passed away a few years ago, who held political beliefs similar to yours. I have a very good friend who holds political beliefs the exact opposite of yours. Both thought their side was on the side of the angels and the other side with the devil. Both make me grumpy.


White Wings,

My experience has been that people who are liberals believe I'm conservative and those who are conservative believe I'm liberal. It's just an artifact of their perspective.

I'm for decentralized power. I believe ideologies are innately dangerous. In theory, I believe individuals have the right to make and act on their own decisions. In practice, individuals live in communities and rights are social creations.

I dislike name-calling and labeling. Political speeches usually bore me, sometimes scare me. To paraphrase Groucho Marx, ~ Anyone who believes he's qualified to be POTUS is not. *g* (But since our Constitution requires a president, they should first serve as a governor or a mayor of a major city).

Candidate Trump's immigration and trade policies would not lead to economic prosperity. On those alone, I would not have voted for him. On the international front, my concern is China's quest to build a tributary regional state system. By taking the US out of the Transpacific Partnership, Trump made it easier for China to achieve it.

In the near term, Trump's concern should be to hold onto the House and Senate. If he loses the House, there's a good chance we'll see impeachment hearings. Until then, those who believe he's dangerous to the Republic can only hope the VP and cabinet have an epiphany leading to an evoking of the 25th Amendment. But as they say, hope is not a strategy.

Hope and Change, Hope and Change

Build the Wall, Build the Wall


Dangerous times, stirring up people. *g*



WG



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white wings says:
(Mon Jan 8 05:30:45 2018 70.112.135.184)
wolfguard - Small "t", noted. *g*

Tweeting as bad cop to Tillerson's good cop sounds like an excellent interpretation to me. It makes sense. Tweeting a warning to a subordinate who one actually meets with regularly in cabinet meetings sounds iffy. Well, it sounds like iffy management to me, especially between two men who did not fall off the turnip truck yesterday. But it is possible. I'd like to think there was something else involved, but I have no more suggestions than I had before.

I found your repeated report that Trump visualized his politics as vanquishing a villain every day oddly endearing. Of course these days so many people make up stuff about him that it's hard to know what is true or false, but I rather hope that it's true. It's so much less boring than achieving some goal every day and checking off a box at the end of the day. It may mean that his energy level requires a battle, and he has some imagination. A reality show is not that exciting a metaphor to those in the Buffyverse, but it's making an effort. If he lived in the real world as we do, he'd brandish a pointed stick and say "Wish me monsters". ;-)

Anyway, your theory now goes that he has no problem with confrontations with members of the press and his peers, i.e. foreign leaders. These are people who could presumably pay him back, but that doesn't bother him. I dunno. He may dislike confrontations with those whose affections he values. He may not like confrontations with Melania. I could believe that.

I note that you are no fan. Not required. I did vote for him. It took me a while to work up much enthusiasm, but I was so appalled by the alternative that it was a foregone conclusion that I would favor anyone who was not a Democrat, and specifically that Democrat. But I came to understand that he was the only one who had the slightest chance of winning and he may be the only one who has the energy to overcome the traps that his predecessor set for him in the executive branch. I can only watch and look at results.



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Maverick says:
(Mon Jan 8 05:18:51 2018 68.51.139.52)
Edited: Mon Jan 8 05:21:02 2018
Christopher Marlowe, Wolfguard: The Leftist Press wakes up every day hoping to knock Trump out of the Presidency by outright lying or exaggerating some aspect of his life, and if they can't find something they will mock him for such as using the wrong end of a toothpick. Trump provides his countervailing viewpoint to their non-stop assembly of lies, and he gets news coverage for his defense of their hateful fictions, his pointing out their mendacity, and his setting the record straight. If he stopped Tweeting, the Press would run rampant and unopposed with their lies and hyperbole, so don't expect him to stop anytime soon. See, the thing is, that Trump was never expected to win, so the people in the Obama administration did many illegal and underhanded acts which they never thought would be discovered, such as the whole Clinton investigation cover-up, but which CAN and WILL be uncovered unless Trump is driven from office.


shan: Why? What do I have to say to drive you back off the board, and I will say it? Go or stay, just don't expect me to not try to correct some of your Lefty, Marxist silliness if I see it.


Maverick


Beginnings




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wolfguard says:
(Mon Jan 8 04:21:51 2018 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

I think many people have or are going to become habituated to his tweets. Background noise to getting work done and getting on with life. This pose possible dangers.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 8 03:03:38 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard If there is one thing that Trump will be known for, I think, beyond anything else is his use of Twitter. I don't think any other world leader, past or present has gotten nearly as much attention.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 8 00:11:07 2018 209.159.255.231)
Football and now a bit of the red
carpet of the Golden Globes before
heading out to my discussion group,
our first meeting of the year.

Everyone is wearing black at the
Globes, I had forgotten that folks
were doing so to keep awareness
about sexual harassment.



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Jan 7 23:03:27 2018 71.56.125.67)
White Wings,

Theory with a small "theory". *g*

Off your questions/observations...


(1) Subordinates

Tweet as warning.

(You're behavior is annoying me, don't make me call you to the office)

Tweet as good cop/bad cop.

(Tillerman - You're wasting your time with rocketman (actual audience is Kim, take the deal Tillerman is offering, talk about the table, etc)


(2) News people

I don't think he minds this sort of confrontation. They don't work for him, but they do provide the big bad in his vision of politics as morality fables.

Recently someone reported Trump told staff(er) his vision of doing presidential politics was to see it as reality TV where each day was an episode where he, Trump, vanquished this or that villain. Earlier than this, perhaps during the general election or even near the end of the primaries, Trump concluded the Democratic Party didn't provide the necessary foil. Needing a new "villain", Trump concluded the press/media would do quite well.

He certainly is not adverse to confrontation on the public stage. (What did Shakespeare say ~ All the world's a stage,. And all the men and women merely players)


(3) Foreign Leaders

Players on the stage. Some get attacked, threatened, belittled, and befriended depending on the needs of the script.


As always, I did not vote for Mr Trump. I do recognize millions of people did and many still support him and his style.


WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Jan 7 14:07:13 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Sunday, January 7th 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Little Anias
RockAngel
Shiobhan

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Little Anias, RockAngel, Shiobhan!



What should I do, then? Send her a gift? Sacrifice? Unholy fruit basket?
Angel, 'Ground State''


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Shan says:
(Sun Jan 7 13:10:12 2018 49.197.42.128)
Though having said that, the wheels
have been set in motion to lay
havoc to the economy, health care,
environment and world peace in due
course. There's definitely a long,
long list of other things I'm
missing, for sure.



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Shan says:
(Sun Jan 7 13:05:00 2018 49.197.42.128)
About the only thing I can say to
the credit of the current US
president is due to his general
inability to get anything done of
(destructive) consequence so far,
he's yet to be as bad as the
previous Republican president, who
could politely be described as
'abominable'.



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Jan 7 13:03:36 2018 73.58.128.92)
Happy Belated Birthday Mrs.Beasley!



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white wings says:
(Sun Jan 7 04:33:49 2018 70.112.135.184)
Happy Birthday Arctic Lurker, beppie, Christine, Creep Crawley, D of B, Kath60, Mrs.Beasley, TERA, and the cordy!

wolfguard - If I understand your theory properly, it doesn't seem to me to cover the entire situation. Hating to fire people doesn't mean that one can't fire people. I've never met anyone who does enjoy firing people. Trump may delegate that duty when possible - I don't know the mechanics of his operations - but there's been a significant exodus of people from his campaign organization and administration, and they are not low-level people. Lewandowski, Manafort, Bannon, Frist, and of course,Comey. There are others, but I don't know who resigned as opposed to being let go. I don't recall that any of the above were (was?) driven out by twitter comments, and Trump was certainly not an innocent bystander while some personnel fairy effected the changes against his will. If the idea was to drive Sessions or Tillerson out by twitter to avoid confrontation, it certainly has not worked. If that wasn't the intention, would you think that making public comments criticizing someone who works for you, who you meet with regularly, would be conducive to reduced tension with that person? And frankly, I don't think that a man who fears confrontation would look directly at people and call them dishonest purveyors of fake news, or sit across a conference table and ask leaders of other countries to meet treaty obligations that they had never before met.

I remain confused, and I believe your theory (should you decide to think about it) needs some fleshing out. But I can live in this state. *g*



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Maverick says:
(Sun Jan 7 03:46:14 2018 68.51.139.52)
R.I.P. Legendary Astronaut John Young



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Jan 7 02:07:49 2018 209.159.255.231)
Comma It sucks that **** is starred out. It's not a dirty word!



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Shan says:
(Sat Jan 6 23:03:04 2018 49.197.42.128)
Dow Jones:

Start Bill Clinton = 6,844
End Bill Clinton = 10,588

Start Obama's Term = 7,949.09
End Obama's Term = 19,732.40



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Comma says:
(Sat Jan 6 19:48:24 2018 75.143.154.113)
Edited: Sat Jan 6 20:59:20 2018
Jerry van ****, comedian and brother of Dick van ****, died yesterday at 86. May he R.I.P.

It sounds like and rhymes with dike.

Comma



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Jan 6 16:28:41 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Saturday, January 6th 2018 C.E.

We have NIN (9) Birthdays!


Arctic Lurker
beppie
Christine
Creep Crawley
D of B
Kath60
Mrs.Beasley
TERA
the cordy

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Arctic Lurker, beppie, Christine, Creep Crawley, D of B, Kath60, Mrs.Beasley, TERA, the cordy!



I can beat up demons until the cows come home, and then I can beat up the cows.
Buffy, 'Intervention'''


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wolfguard says:
(Sat Jan 6 04:34:51 2018 4.28.180.2)
White Wings,

I've an off-the-cuff theory for why Trump might use tweets to 'communicate'
with his staff. I've long read and heard Trump doesn't like personal conflict.
Despite The Apprentice, he doesn't like firing people. So, perhaps he
uses tweets to say what he might not want to say face-to-face. That said, I've
more recently read he does yell a lot at staff.

Off that, the 'No-Drama Obama' is not how everyone remembers him. Some
staffers said he could have quite a temper. Some journalists have observed
Hilary Clinton had an opposite personal-public persona in that those who
worked for her said she was warm, caring and compassionate as opposed to her
sometime public demeanor of dead serious.

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Jan 6 03:53:30 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Though I did not vote for him, I will voice what I believe his supporters
might argue...

1. Appointing conservative judges

2. The tax law

3. Driving ISIS out of the territory they conquered during Obama's
administration.

4. Withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.1

5. Putting pressure on Mexico and Canada to revise NAFTA to better serve
American interests.

6. Restrictions on immigration.2

7. His attempt to get "The Wall" financed using DACA as leverage.
3

8. Directly confronting Kim in a language Kim understands.

Note: This sort of behavior horrifies many and is tsk-tsk'd by foreign
policy professionals, but it appears to be appreciated by many of his
supporters. It also leads to ...

9. His disdain for the left and the elite, pleases many who have felt the
left and the elite have treated them as, what's the word? "Deplorables".
Trump is giving the single-finger salute for them and they like it.
4

10. Finally, the stock market is doing well and presidents usually claim a
good economy as their doing - or at least let others make the association.


1 I believe this is one of his worst decisions.

2 I think it was the third go at it that succeeded which suggest
he can learn from his mistakes.

3 I support the spirit of DACA, but it would be analytical
mistake not to recognize Trump's ploy - you scratch my back and I'll
scratch yours.

4 One question is whether Trump's presidency heralds a change
towards electing presidents who will seek their supporters' goals before
seeking goals viewed as serving "All Americans".


WG



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white wings says:
(Sat Jan 6 03:51:47 2018 70.112.135.184)
wolfguard - Don't you mean they don't dare to? *g* Russia may be more like a shiny toy that a Democratraccoon has reached into a bottle after, that has him trapped because he won't let it go. At least Trump's attitude towards Putin is vastly more mature than a red plastic reset button.

Actually, except for Twitter, Trump seems to have a remarkably conventional approach to the presidency. He's had a learning curve, to be sure, especially with personnel, but given his lack of background in politics, that is only to be expected. I expect that learning isn't finished. But he seems to follow laws and seems to want his staff to behave ethically and with fiscal responsibility, and removes them if he thinks they have not, which is rather refreshing. I call that conventional, but perhaps it really isn't. *g* He reinstated the bust of Churchill in the Oval Office, he meets with members of Congress, and has tried to meet with both sides, he praises the military/police and seems to mean it, he's following the various regulations involved with backing out regulations, and when he doesn't like a situation created by prior executive fiat he challenges Congress to regularize it by passing a law.

I have been massively confused by his communicating with his cabinet members via Twitter, especially to express disapproval. These are people he meets with any time he desires, and I don't think he has any difficulty expressing himself in person. It seems a very odd management technique, to act as though he doesn't have authority over these men. But perhaps the media attacks, accusing him of obstruction of justice, make him want to just throw it out in public. Or perhaps it's some negotiating strategy with him. Who or what he's negotiating with/about isn't clear to me. The ostensible target of the tweet? The media, twitter audience, congress? Or perhaps it's the way he can express himself without the trappings of the presidency hampering him. Or none or all of the above. I give up. But it's more entertaining than the pontifications of his predecessor. I think Teddy Roosevelt would have adored Twitter.

Christopher Marlowe - One could dispute the definition of "is". *g* If one defines "effective" as "getting what he wants", well, we don't actually know what Trump was willing to settle for, only what he said he wanted. He's gotten a fair amount done. Some with Congress, a lot with the judiciary, a decent start on reducing regulatory burdens and increasing energy reserves, and allegedly getting some NATO members to start coughing up more towards their own defense, which no one else has ever done. He's had a Sword Dance in Saudi and jet ramps and personal escorts in China. He has had to do all of this on a sadly understaffed executive, caused by deliberate attempts to hobble him by slowing down approvals. If you mean "getting what you want done", well, that may be another story. I'm not saying that what you want is bad. I'm not saying that what he wants is bad. The path to achieving either set of goals may have collateral damage that has to be judged as well. I tend to think that we will progress by lurching one way, and then lurching another, but maybe keeping something from the prior path. And then doing it all again. I kind of believe that's how democracies work.

OK, I've been more serious than I have been for a long time, and I've had to compose and cut and paste and correct grammar, and I'm tired. I'm going to go watch more of the Dr. Pol marathon.



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lostinamerica says:
(Sat Jan 6 02:09:04 2018 73.58.128.92)
Yay! wiccachick!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jan 6 01:14:05 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard There might be room for dispute with 'effective'



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Jan 6 01:12:34 2018 4.28.180.2)
White Wings,

True. And they don't need to. Trump's history with Russia and attitude towards
Putin work as shiny objects. His approach to the presidency is a bold
experiment in how far one can stray from the conventions of the presidency and
still be effective.


WG



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white wings says:
(Sat Jan 6 00:53:46 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay wiccachick!

Belated Yay Xanderella!

Happy Birthday Dudley, kessie, midglet, and TheTigGA!

Christopher Marlowe - Freezing mist? Are you now home safely? I looked at your weather and it's apparently going to give you a whiplash with a sudden "hot" spell, if you survive tonight. That's weirder than Texas, but while we like to say that there's nothing between us and the North Pole but a barbed wire fence, we actually have South Dakota in between. You have even less than that. {{{heat}}}

p.s. Stir crazy or not, stay inside.

Agent Cooper - Did you see that someone tweeted a spoofed excerpt from Fire and Fury about a "Gorilla Channel" that Trump was supposed to be addicted to, and it was seriously repeated? *g*

wolfguard - Forget Russia. Consider being in construction (or politics) in New York City (or Chicago). I notice that no one - no one - including Democrats from New York State or any surrounding state, ever suggests there is anything to look at there. *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jan 6 00:36:45 2018 209.159.255.231)
I'm going stir crazy at the moment, spent too much time arguing with someone on facebook.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jan 5 21:28:51 2018 209.159.255.231)
Holy Foggy Bottom Batman! That's quite the freezing mist out there!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Jan 5 20:27:23 2018 199.127.148.10)
I wish I could be in Knoxville tonight so I wouldn't worry if you were all right
And you wouldn't wonder where I spent the night
If I could only be in Knoxville tonight
I wish I could be in St Paul today and watch you get dressed and ready for your day
And tell you some things I know you've been told
If I could get the St Paul before it gets cold
I wish I could sleep tonight in Little Rock
But then we never did go too much by the clock
But I don't remember hearing you ever complain
I'd sleep tonight in Little Rock if I could fly a plane
I'd give everything I have if things had just begun
And you were lying there in North Carolina sun
And every thing we had was still yet to be Carolina you sure got the best of me

Read more: The Statler Brothers - I Wish I Could Be Lyrics | MetroLyrics



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jan 5 19:34:35 2018 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Fri Jan 5 19:42:55 2018
Agent Cooper,

"Why did God create economists? To make weather forecasters look good."1

The difficulty people have in assessing all sorts of forecasts and predictions is matching goals with time scale. On one of my daily routes I cannot well predict what will be the state of each traffic light as I encounter it - green/red/yellow - but I can made a good enough prediction on how long it will take to make the trip so I'm not late.

Off the 'collusion' comment. On more than one occasion Jeffrey Toobin, no fan of Trump, has said collusion is not a crime. Trump and/or his folks might be charged with conspiracy or obstruction of justice or jaywalking, but they will not be charged with collusion. Of course, Mueller is not investigating for 'collusion'.

(ETA I suspect that back when citizen Trump was doing business in Russia he may have done some questionable deals that he'd rather not have known (spectrum from illegal to simply unseemly). It's possible he and/or his family have also received further favorable financing or investing from Russians. Again, it may not have been illegal, but have bad "optics". Like many past politicians facing scandals, the legal troubles may not come from the original actions, but from their attempts to hide it. Current example: Lying to federal investigators.)



1 "If economists could manage to get themselves thought of as humble, competent people on a level with dentists, that would be splendid." - Keynes

One reason they cannot is because different people and groups are served differently by different policies so see the world as it best serves their interests.


WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Jan 5 15:41:56 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Friday, January 5th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Dudley
kessie
midglet
TheTigGA

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Dudley, kessie, midglet, TheTigGA!



Yeah, we're building a race of frog-people. It's a good time Xander, 'No Place Like Home'''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jan 5 15:11:33 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay wiccachick!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jan 5 13:53:59 2018 165.225.38.71)
Fire and Fury - You know, they keep coming at this guy. They tried the sexual harassment angle, and boy did THAT blow up in their faces. Talk about collateral damage!

Then they tried this crazy Russian collusion thing, and that's backfiring badly. Let's just say that when this is over the people going to jail for collusion with the Russians are not the people they were hoping for.

Now this book. It's kind of sad that all they have left is a tell-all by a disgruntled employee. The author of which is already facing a couple of libel suits, with likely more to come. Talk about grasping at any shred of hope.

For pete's sake, give it up already.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jan 5 13:37:06 2018 165.225.38.71)
Wolfguard - Economists are in business to make astrologers look accurate. :-P



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Jan 5 12:12:25 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for wiccachick!

yay wiccachick!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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Dogmeat says:
(Fri Jan 5 10:48:06 2018 96.250.84.9)
All the screaming by 45 has
prompted me to pre order a copy to
my ereader



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jan 5 08:31:52 2018 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Fri Jan 5 08:32:57 2018
Yay Xanderella!

Belated Yay Bossy the Cow!



Just re-watched The Initiative. Superb episode with many classic scenes.

"Maybe she's Canadian." *g*


One of the writers said they had concerns about the scenes between Willow and Riley, because Alyson and Marc had such good chemistry it risk overshadowing Buffy and Riley scenes.



Belated Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

Kate Lockley rejoins the LAPD. Is this good news or bad news for Angel?

No news. Angel's story is beyond LA - or should be, yes? *g*

I've got no idea where the comics have taken Angel. He's still in LA? Seriously? *g*


ETA Happy New Year Adri!



Night All


WG



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Adri says:
(Fri Jan 5 08:20:37 2018 98.150.210.7)
Happy New Year! (a little late but
what else is new? :D )



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jan 5 08:15:20 2018 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

As I understood the entire column, it was saying many people view the ~high tech~ companies as disrupting the more conventional companies that make-up the American business community.1 The column is arguing the financial evidence doesn't support this view - for now.

1 "High Tech" = Amazon, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple.



Igaunas falling from the trees!



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jan 5 03:39:40 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I'm not sure what all that means, but it sounds dire!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jan 5 02:39:58 2018 4.28.180.2)
An item "on tap" ...

Excerpts from "Schumpeter / Uneasy Accommodation"1

"...At least six conventional industries have been enviscerated by digital
innovation in the past two decades - music, video-renting, books, taxis,
newspapers, and clothes retailing. In financial terms the survivors are
shadows of their former selves. The New York Times Company's profits are
67% below their peak ... But these firms and their peers were never large.
In 1997, when Mark Zuckerberg was 13 years old and the six industries were
in their prime, they accounted for 2% of the profits of the S&P 500 index
of big American firms. The toll that digital disruption has taken so far on
overall earnings is thus tiny ... Only about 40 companies in the S&P 500
have price-earnings ratio of less than 12, which is a sign of imminent
decline. That is similar to the share two decades ago and half the number
of ten years ago. Only two industries are priced for devastation. General
Motors and Ford are valued at just seven times profits... Investors
appear to be assuming an accommodation between big tech and the rest of big
business, not a bloody showdown ... But it is possible that the present
balancing act may topple over ... "


1 The Economist's business column for the September 30th
2017 issue.

(A tangent. The other day, Michael Smerconish reported that some people
were dropping their New York Times subscription, because the paper
was a 'rag for Trump'. *G*



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jan 5 02:33:34 2018 209.159.255.231)
I guess not much of anything!

I'm down to watching something on
Dimock Cheese.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jan 5 00:59:35 2018 209.159.255.231)
What's on tap for tonight?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jan 4 23:35:21 2018 209.159.255.231)
Looks like some Fire and Fury will
be raining down soon. Not that I
plan to be hit with any of it!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Jan 4 22:10:14 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Patriotic Pursuits

Category: Constitution
Question: What did the 26th Amendment to the Constitution do?
Answer: Lower the voting Age

Trivia Master Voter: OldmanFan!

oh wow...our local Sears store is closing.



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OldManFan says:
(Thu Jan 4 15:36:53 2018 24.3.106.169)
Trivia Girl - extended to right to vote to 18-year-olds.

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Jan 4 15:34:34 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Patriotic Pursuits

Category: Constitution
Question: What did the 26th Amendment to the Constitution do?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Jan 4 15:00:44 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Thursday, January 4th 2018 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


amorphia
biobabel
CHettler
elizabethdarcy
I_have_places_to_be
KINETIC
Nyx
sage
Shepster
Soul Rebel

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to amorphia, biobabel, CHettler, elizabethdarcy, I have places to be, KINETIC, Nyx, sage, Shepster, Soul Rebel!



Sweet lumpy minion, you're the only one that understands. Probably 'cause I haven't sucked the brain out of you yet. Glory, 'Checkpoint''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jan 4 14:38:22 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay xanderella!


Happy CD Thursday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Jan 4 12:41:58 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for xanderella!

yay xanderella!


Happy CD Thursday!



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white wings says:
(Thu Jan 4 04:56:07 2018 70.112.135.184)
wolfguard - My pleasure. ;-)



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jan 4 04:51:42 2018 4.28.180.2)
White Wings,

Thank you for catching my typo on the lunar eclipse. It wasn't a copying error
though, it was my typing. *g*

WG



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white wings says:
(Thu Jan 4 04:40:33 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Bossy the Cow!

Happy Birthday BrownEyedGirl, Isis, Little drdan, Kasimir86, and SunnyD!

lostinamerica - I'm glad you went for wiser. *g* I don't think I ever spent NYE outside either. My parents always warned me about being on the road that night of all nights, and I always spent it safely at home. OTOH, I've always stayed up to see the new year in at my location. That's not sentiment so much as usually being awake at midnight anyway. However, your stratagem for celebrating it at the location of your choosing sounds perfectly wise.

pssst! Spread the word. wolfguard was wrong about something.

wolfguard - I really hope you are wrong about some of those predictions, but I cannot fault your reasoning. Only your copying. The Blue Moon that will be eclipsed is scheduled for Jan. 31, not Jan. 3.

Trump is doing more than tweeting. I read that the North Korean army isn't being fed. Kim might have nukes, but he won't be able to achieve his dream of conquering the South without a ground army. But where this "negotiation" winds up, I cannot predict, since other parties are involved.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jan 4 04:03:28 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

They are behaving like to guys in a barroom trying to persuade the other
one to back-down / back-off. Countries do this, but usually with more
formality.

In this case, North Korea has much less capability than the US. Both sides
know it. What North Korea has had in the past is more will or at least the
appearance of it - we're zealots, better not mess with us.

A conventional war would devastate much of what South Korea has achieved,
so they are disinclined to test the North's threats or react strongly to
the North's provocations. The US has respected South Korea's desires.
Consequently, North Korea has felt little restraint on its actions.

Trump changed the dynamics. Whereas previous US presidents have behaved
like adults trying to use rewards and punishments to get a bad boy to
change his act, Trump is behaving like a bigger bad boy who is saying, 'Cut
the shinola or I'll beat your arse.'

Kim can't be seen as backing down, because he rules and lives by riding
wolves. How to the wolves sense the situation? Are they more scared of Kim
or more scared of the US?

I think Kim is going to get his nuclear weapons and if he doesn't crow
about, Trump may let it pass (Rocketman's missiles don't work. SAD!) which
might let Trump off the hook.

In the bar when two men get into a heated argument that leads to the face-
to-face, it ends in one of four ways ....

1) One backs down

2) They are coaxed apart by friends or pulled apart by authorities

3) One suddenly attacks and takes down the other

4) Fight



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jan 4 03:19:16 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I viewed Trump's button comment more simply, he was just saying mine is bigger than yours. Trump always makes claims that whatever he has or does is bigger, better, etc. Such braggadocio I don't think ends well.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jan 4 01:46:26 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Comments on your comments...

- There's a saying about Brasil, "It's the country of the future and always
will be." The same might be said of nuclear fusion. All existing nuclear
power plants use nuclear fission where splitting the nucleus
releases energy that's used to convert water to steam, the steam then used
to turn turbines to generate electricity.1 Most nuclear bombs
work the same way, splitting nuclei release energy.2

Nuclear energy can also be released by 'fusing' certain nuclei together.
This is how energy is produced inside stars. It takes tremendous pressure
and temperature to force the nuclei to fuse. To get it, hydrogen bombs are
detonated by fission bombs and this method isn't conducive for power
plants.

So the general problem is how to you create the necessary temperatures and
pressures without using a fission bomb. For a long time, engineers have
been trying to do it using magnetic fields. One day they work out the devil
in the details, but I'm betting - based on past experience - it won't
happen this year.

- Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has had numerous Saudi VIP's arrested on
charges of ~corruption. They've been put up in 10-star hotel, but I'm sure
they don't like it. Other VIP's may get fearful enough to strike at him,


- North Korea has the nuclear bombs and the missiles, it's a question of
when they reliably mate the two together with a guidance system.

I understand many people see Kim and Trump's button challenge as who's king
of the hill, but I see the 'big button' remark as signaling, "You're not in
the same league, don't fool yourself. It could be costly."

- The US Navy will not fire the first shots at China unless there's very
clear evidence China is already preparing to fire at them. I suspect the
most likely cause will come from a confrontation between China and another
South China Sea country that gets out of hand and escalates.

- China's livestock industries are breeding grounds for diseases. H7N9 is
still circulating. Madagascar is currently experiencing the Plague. There
are a number of diseases appearing in Africa as people open up wilderness
areas to farming and forestry.

- I don't know if the Republicans will lose the House or Senate, but I
believe they will lose seats.

- I pulled the January lunar eclipse from an astronomical site. I'm
trusting them to be correct (hopefully it's not FAKE-STAR news *g*).


1 Commercial electric power generating plants use steam. Where
the differ is how the heat the water to produce the steam.

2 However nuclear warheads need highly-enriched uranium, power
plants use low-enriched uranium.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jan 4 00:26:24 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Your predictions!

- Oil will end the year higher than it started the year. :)

A safe bet

- Putin will win the presidential elections in March.

for sure


- Bitcoin will experience wild swings in price over the year. :[

it's so volatile, isn't it?[/I]

- Commercial nuclear fusion will not be achieved in 2018.

need more info

- This year will see the largest number of Puerto Ricans leave P.R. in history.

given the recent disaster, that seems another natural outcome

- A major political figure in Saudi Arabia will be assassinated.

royal family member?

- North Korea will succeed in creating nuclear-armed missiles.

very scary thought

- And North Korea will do something to demonstrate President Trump doesn't intimidate them.

proving their button is bigger than Trump's

- A major general retail chain will go out of business.

Sears or JC Penney maybe?

- There will be at least one violent conflict over differing legal claims in the South China Sea.

chance of the US being part of that conflict?[I/]

- There will be a pandemic out of China and another inside Africa.

can't see either happening

- The Republicans will lose seats in both the Senate and House in the mid-term elections.

I am not certain of that

- Twitter will be hacked and for 48 hours there will be no tweets from the President. Imagine that.

oh, that would be such a blessing!

- There will be a total eclipse of the blue moon on January 3, 2018.

trick prediction?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jan 3 23:42:23 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who was the actress that played the character of 'Amanda' in the Angel episode Time Bomb?
Answer: Jamie Bergman

Trivia Master: OldManFan!



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OldManFan says:
(Wed Jan 3 20:10:19 2018 24.3.106.169)
Trivia Girl - Jamie Bergman.

OMF



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 3 15:25:55 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who was the actress that played the character of 'Amanda' in the Angel episode Time Bomb?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Jan 3 15:06:27 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Wednesday, January 3rd 2018 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


BrownEyedGirl
Isis
Little drdan
Kasimir86
SunnyD

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to BrownEyedGirl, Isis, Little drdan, Kasimir86, SunnyD!



What should I do, then? Send her a gift? Sacrifice? Unholy fruit basket?
Angel, 'Ground State''


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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 3 14:57:14 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay bossy the cow!

deadguy qod

I think Kate rejoining LAPD is a good thing, although the last time we saw her, it wasn't really clear what her status was, real, ghost or something else.

Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Jan 3 14:41:43 2018 73.58.128.92)
Yay! Bossy the Cow!



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Shan says:
(Wed Jan 3 13:40:32 2018 49.197.42.128)
Predictions 2018:

I hope I'm wrong about this one.

Maverick (or 'maverick' as I
sometimes think) says something so
outrageous again that I up sticks
and leave for the rest of the year
for the third year running ...



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Jan 3 12:41:07 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for bossy the cow!

yay bossy the cow!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

the los angeles police department - supernatural division

kate lockley rejoins the l.a.p.d. is this good news or bad news for angel?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jan 3 07:39:31 2018 71.56.125.67)
Yay Malista!


Christopher Marlowe,

Some predictions!

- Oil will end the year higher than it started the year. :)

- Putin will win the presidential elections in March.

- Bitcoin will experience wild swings in price over the year. :[

- Commercial nuclear fusion will not be achieved in 2018.

- This year will see the largest number of Puerto Ricans leave P.R. in history.

- A major political figure in Saudi Arabia will be assassinated.

- North Korea will succeed in creating nuclear-armed missiles.

- And North Korea will do something to demonstrate President Trump doesn't intimidate them.

- A major general retail chain will go out of business.

- There will be at least one violent conflict over differing legal claims in the South China Sea.

- There will be a pandemic out of China and another inside Africa.

- The Republicans will loose seats in both the Senate and House in the mid-term elections.

- Twitter will be hacked and for 48 hours there will be no tweets from the President. Imagine that.

- There will be a total eclipse of the blue moon on January 3, 2018.




Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question

Which of the scoobies, aside from Buffy, is resolved to spend more time at the gym this year?

Andrew



Night All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jan 3 04:55:57 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

1st prediction - LOL

2nd prediction - No DACA


Will post a prediction in a bit.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 3 03:49:15 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I will start

I predict Trump will make a tweet
that upsets some people. *g*

A more bold prediction, Trump will
not succeed in getting his Wall
approved this year.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jan 3 03:47:24 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Capital idea. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 3 01:26:34 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Should we make predictions about what will happen in 2018?



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OldManFan says:
(Wed Jan 3 01:01:24 2018 24.3.106.169)
Trivia Girl, Agent Cooper - ... except Jar Jar Binks haunts EVERYONE!

OMF



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 3 01:00:13 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard LOL!!!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 2 23:38:33 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Google "Darth Jar Jar Theory"

*g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 2 22:43:14 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Buffy
Question: What character did the First assume in order to torment Angel in the episode Amends?

Answer: I was looking for Jenny, but I didn't quite word that question correctly. *g*

Trivia Masters are OldManFan, Agent Cooper and Shan!

wolfguard I'm trying to picture Jar Jar speaking like Darth Vader...my brain hurts.



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Shan says:
(Tue Jan 2 20:52:59 2018 49.197.42.128)
Trivia Girl

I'm not finding a mention of a
'Robert Brown' in relation to Auld
Lang Syne at all when I consult
either Wikipedia or the google ...



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jan 2 20:13:19 2018 165.225.38.71)
On reflection, I'd like to withdraw my answer. The First was evil, but not THAT evil.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 2 19:41:32 2018 71.56.125.67)
Agent Cooper,

Darth Jar Jar Binks?

*g*

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jan 2 19:31:42 2018 165.225.38.71)
Trivia Girl - Jar Jar Binks



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OldManFan says:
(Tue Jan 2 15:39:20 2018 24.3.106.169)
Trivia Girl - well... there was Daniel, Margaret, but I think the answer you are looking for is Jenny Calendar.

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jan 2 15:24:48 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Buffy
Question: What character did the First assume in order to torment Angel in the episode Amends?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Jan 2 15:23:29 2018 199.127.148.10)
RIP Rose Marie a few days back (or, a s my father always insisted on saying "Baby Row Smeary.")

Comma I don't see any L Word appearances for Amber; Laurel Holloman of Angel was on it.

Christopher Marlowe I had always thought I'd seen Manchurian Candidate, found out Saturday night I hadn't. (The second time within two years Angela Lansbury had played the mother of man whose years younger than she were countable in single digits.)



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Jan 2 15:14:23 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Tuesday, January 2nd 2018 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Gregg
Mesuvius
Tracy Elizabeth
Willowwood Witch
Yooper

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Gregg, Mesuvius, Tracy Elizabeth, Willowwood Witch, Yooper!



I wanna die in bed surrounded by fat grandchildren, but guess that's off the menu.
Jenny, 'Amends''


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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 2 15:02:43 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay malista!

deadguy qod

Xander I think. I don't recall him getting that much exercise on Buffy. I can't really see the others pumping iron!


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Jan 2 13:37:38 2018 73.58.128.92)
white wings--We are wiser,
definitely :) Actually, I must
have been wiser beyond my years my
whole life, because I can't
remember ever ringing in the new
year at some outdoor event ;)

I also haven't bothered to stay up
until midnight for a few years
now, after having figured out I
can just pretend I'm in
Shan's location and it's
already the new year :)


Shan--Welcome back! And it
seems like the two areas on the
border of a time zone should pool
their resources for one hell of a
fireworks show :)


Happy Belated Birthday Aramina!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Jan 2 12:16:30 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for malista

yay malista!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

planet fitness, sunnydale - plenty of self-defense classes

which of the scoobies, aside from buffy, is resolved to spend more time at the gym this year?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 2 04:58:03 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Consider the tactics and strategy of residential development...

Tactics are the techniques from hammering a nail to designing the website to
making a sale. Strategy is the plan for making happen the residential
properties that realize your companies' goals.

There's also 'the operational art' which, crudely put, lies between the two.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 2 04:37:59 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Oh wow. I'm still trying to parse, tactical vs strategic.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 2 03:53:44 2018 4.28.180.2)
"Next to knowing when to seize an opportunity, the most important thing in
life is to know when to forgo an advantage.
" - Benjamin Disraeli


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 2 03:08:00 2018 4.28.180.2)
Get your facts first and then you can distort'em as much as you please.

- Mark Twain



WG



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Shan says:
(Tue Jan 2 02:59:56 2018 49.197.42.128)
We had fireworks ... but for
decades now, you've needed a
pyrotechnics licence outside the
territories. So, we watch.

I'm currently staying on the
NSW/QLD border and NSW does
daylight savings while QLD does
not. So, I was able to do New
Year's Day Fireworks twice.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 2 02:58:14 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

The Future of War, copyright 2017.



No member of a crew is praised for the rugged individuality of his rowing.


- R. Emerson



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 2 02:47:35 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard What year was that book written?



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 2 02:39:54 2018 4.28.180.2)
An excerpt from The Future of War: A History by Lawrence Freedman,
pp.252-253.

"... Cole was to the fore in an Atlantic Council project encouraging
authors to generate insights in its 'Art of Future Warfare Project'. One
early project was a slim volume of short stories to demonstrate how fiction
might alert policymakers to future possibilities ... The heroes, male or
female, achieved their goals because of their mental rather than physical
toughness. They tended to be super-smart graduates of the best
universities, grasping the powerful technologies at their command.
Following the long traditions of military literature they were often
mavericks, unimpressed by authority yet patriotic to the core.

The origins of their wars were often traced back to previous wars, the
details of which were dimly remembered though they had left the world
unstable and prone to yet more conflict ... The drama came from the
tactical and operational, as these super-smart people made their
complex systems do whatever they needed them to do. The strategic
picture remained murky
. They were fighting the evil and malign because
they could not let them win. Behind all this lay some great political
failure, but that was not where the story was to be found."
(emphasis added)


Comment: Strategy is the reasoning that connects your actions to your
goals. Hannibal won three major battles over the Romans. He occupied Italy
for 15 odd years. But in the end, he failed to defeat Rome and Carthage
paid the price. A master tactician, a failed strategist.

So these writers failed. They said nothing about how the politics, history,
and armed forces of their verses offered insights for strategies that might
be useful in the real world. Perhaps its not their fault since such matters
rarely entertain readers.


WG



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white wings says:
(Tue Jan 2 01:52:02 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Mia!

Happy Birthday Aramina, banshee, LilBufBuf, Lillie, Sabuto, and Talbot!

Today is my eighteenth postiversary at the Bronze.

wolfguard - Well, the blanket seemed like a good idea. The eggnog was cold. It may have been comfortable inside, but it was 27 outside. In fact, it snowed overnight. OK, the snow was gone in the morning, but I saw it falling before I went to bed. *g*

lostinamerica - That allure is lost on me as well. The physical restrictions imposed by crowd control and security may be even more unpleasant than the impositions of Mother Nature. It can be watched on TV when one is surrounded by heat sources, comfortable chairs, food, and drink. Does that mean we are getting older and wiser?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Jan 1 23:32:51 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Traditions
Question: Who wrote the current version of 'Auld Lang Syne'?
Answer: Robert Brown

Trivia Master of None! Me!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Jan 1 23:24:45 2018 4.28.180.2)
Welcome back Shan :)





(2) CONFORMING AMENDMENTS.Section 1(i) is amended

(A) by striking for 1992 in subparagraph (B) in paragraph (1)(C) and
inserting for 2016 in subparagraph (A)(ii), and

(B) by striking subsection (f)(3)(B) shall be applied by substituting
2012 for 1992 in paragraph (3)(C) and inserting subsection (f)(3)(A)
(ii) shall be applied by substituting 2012 for 2016.



GRR ARGH

*g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 1 22:25:48 2018 209.159.255.231)
Hi Shan!

Did you guys have fireworks



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Shan says:
(Mon Jan 1 21:18:17 2018 49.197.42.128)
I guess it's apropos I answer this
question after a long absence. The
credit for Auld Lang Syne's current
wording goes to Robert Burns, I
believe.



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Shan says:
(Mon Jan 1 21:13:00 2018 49.197.42.128)
Happy New Year everyone!

How have you all been?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 1 20:34:19 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I don't necessarily mind walking in cold weather, but it can't bee TOO cold. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Jan 1 19:12:23 2018 71.56.125.67)
Drive-By

Comma,

The Magnum, PI sounds promising.


White Wings,

Yours to Christopher Marlowe, "... But I wrapped in a blanket to do it." LOL!


Christopher Marlowe,

"Third Wave" is a relatively common phrase, but I don't know Steve Case. We're in the teen's right now. I went walking, but didn't much enjoy it. *g*


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Jan 1 15:47:34 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Traditions
Question: Who wrote the current version of 'Auld Lang Syne'?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Jan 1 15:14:15 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Monday, January 1st 2018 C.E.
New Year's Day!

We have Six (6) Birthdays!


Aramina
banshee
LilBufBuf
Lillie
Sabuto
Talbot

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Aramina, banshee, LilBufBuf, Lillie, Sabuto, Talbot!



Hauser: You really think you can solve the problem? Come into Wolfram & Hart and make everything right? Turn night into glorious day? You pathetic little fairy. Angel: I'm not little. 'Just Rewards (2)''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 1 14:55:57 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay mia!


Happy New Year!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Jan 1 13:20:15 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for mia!

yay mia!


Happy New Year!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Jan 1 12:30:39 2018 73.58.128.92)

Happy New Year!




ChristopherMarlowe, white wings--The allure of braving temperatures in the
teens or worse for several hours waiting to watch some lighted object drop
several feet is lost on me ;)



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Maverick says:
(Mon Jan 1 05:10:43 2018 68.51.139.52)

Happy New Year 2018


Auld Lang Syne


Best of Wishes to You All.


Maverick




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white wings says:
(Mon Jan 1 04:49:52 2018 70.112.135.184)
Christopher Marlowe - Since it is at least 27 degrees warmer where I am
than where you are, I drank the last of my eggnog instead of hot chocolate. But
I wrapped in a blanket to do it. Our buildings are not as well sealed and
insulated as yours. *g*

Maybe I should move on to hot chocolate - that's a most excellent idea.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 1 04:29:56 2018 209.159.255.231)
Happy New Year everyone!

white wings My desire to go out and celebrate new years is pretty much zero, which is warmer than the temps out there. *g*

Hot chocolate and a blanket is how I'm celebrating tonight!



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white wings says:
(Mon Jan 1 02:57:07 2018 70.112.135.184)

Happy New Year!



Health, wealth, and happiness to the Beta and all Bronzers everywhere!

Oh, and World Peace.


Christopher Marlowe - We finally got below freezing. I think there are
(illegal)fireworks going, but I don't feel like looking outside. *g*



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Comma says:
(Mon Jan 1 01:21:33 2018 75.143.154.113)
I am looking at a list of 25 old shows that are in the works to get remakes in 2018. Included is 'Charmed', with the original cast, 'Magnum PI', with Magnum's daughter running the old PI business, and 'The L Word', no word on cast but Amber Benson did act on their off and on.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 31 23:33:39 2017 209.159.255.231)
Heading out to see a flashmob performance tonight and dinner with a friend afterwards. Not planning to stay up for any NYE shenanigans though.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 31 19:54:40 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Are you keeping warm? I think it will hit zero today as a high.

Have you heard/read Steve Case's 'The Third Wave
'?



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Dec 31 19:51:04 2017 71.56.125.67)
Good Afternoon Beta!

WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Dec 31 15:22:54 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Sunday, December 31st 2017 C.E.
New Year's Eve!

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Anna
atter
Hugs
Little E
Rudeangel

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Anna, atter, Hugs, Little E, Rudeangel!



Zoe: Captain will come up with a plan. Kaylee: That's good. Right? Zoe: Possibly you're not recalling some of his previous plans. 'Safe''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 31 15:14:32 2017 209.159.255.231)
good morning beta!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 31 05:04:06 2017 209.159.255.231)
Ahhhh Star Trek: The Original Series!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 31 02:44:44 2017 209.159.255.231)
Believe it or not, my first viewing of the original Manchurian Candidate.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 30 23:48:58 2017 209.159.255.231)
Ah..the joys of winter....NOT

Snowing outside and the roads might as well be skating rinks.

I did see the movie Jumanji, a solid enough movie to recommend.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Dec 30 16:05:03 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Saturday, December 30th 2017 C.E.

We have NINE (9) Birthdays!


1cham
Buff1f
Buffy little sis
Eliza Dushku as The Slayer Faith
fifitrix
holga
Kiera
Nikki Oliver
squirrelmagnet


Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to 1cham, Bufflf, Buffy little sis, Eliza Dushku fifitrix, holga, Kiera, Nikki Oliver, squirrelmagnet!



It's my estimation that... every man ever got a statue made of him, was one kind of sumbitch or another. Mal, 'Jaynestown''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 30 15:27:25 2017 209.159.255.231)
good morning beta!



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Dogmeat says:
(Sat Dec 30 12:58:24 2017 74.101.48.2)
Happy Belated New Year. ;)



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lostinamerica says:
(Sat Dec 30 12:28:51 2017 73.58.128.92)
Belated Yay! IMMORTAL!


*continues working on Xmas cards*



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Dec 30 04:45:51 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Perhaps The Zeppo?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 30 03:22:09 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I have been watching Black Mirror, a sort of modern day version of the Twilight Zone. What is the oddest episode of Buffy, aside from Restless?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 30 02:11:20 2017 209.159.255.231)
Comma And she never got to the last letter of the alphabet!



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Comma says:
(Sat Dec 30 02:09:53 2017 75.143.154.113)
R.I.P. mystery writer Sue Grafton.

Comma



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Dec 30 00:27:56 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Too much for a focused story. Too much enticement for viewer supplied subtext
that could not be explored. Besides, there were twins of a sort - Glory and
Ben. *g*

Sisters - simple and sufficient


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 29 23:41:04 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Okay, twins?



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 29 23:18:31 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Non-starter.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 29 23:01:50 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard How different would things be if Dawn was Dan? A boy instead of a girl?



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 29 22:50:17 2017 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

All things are conceivable in the fanverses. *g*

WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Dec 29 21:35:15 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Well, I guess you understand such a perspective better than I do #deadpan.
Doesn't mean that a still-39-for-a-little single mother of twins DR Dawn wouldn't look upon the just-37 hot bachelor 2026 Watcher as a plausible new life partner, especially after her fellow single mom Cordelia's matchmaking efforts.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 29 19:34:27 2017 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

Dawn perceives age differently than you. She's on a downward slide to 40. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 29 18:15:07 2017 209.159.255.231)
Five degrees here in Rapid City. It is supposed to be three below come NYE. Luckily, the temps will be much better after New Year's Day.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Dec 29 17:52:25 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard The significant aspect, though, is how long it has been Dawn *weg.
For that matter, while it's the second half of their thirties, it's not really the "end of" excpe t in a wide sense; Xander and Tara are just 37, and the others aren't that old quite yet.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 29 17:03:54 2017 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

The Key has been around awhile. *g*

WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Dec 29 15:40:14 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Dawn is only 31, so "end of ...thirties" doesn't apply.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Dec 29 15:17:47 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Friday, December 29th 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Leiser
MelWil
Shoe Buff
Verity

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Leiser, MelWil, Shoe Buff, Verity!



Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard. Dream Girl, 'Hush'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 29 15:07:48 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay immortal!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Dec 29 11:58:53 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for immortal!

yay immortal!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 29 06:51:58 2017 71.56.125.67)
Belated Yay Elusio!

Belated Yay Stina!

Belated Yay Bedlin!!

Belated Yay Jennifer Lynn!

Belated Yay Shade of Bronze!

Belated Yay Demoriel!!

Belated Yay Dogmeat!



Belated Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday & Buffy Tuesday Questions


Which of the scoobies does all their shopping online?

Xander


Considering the number of slayers, what are the chances of Angel and Spike surviving this century?

It's not the slayers that threaten these two's existence.


As they approach the end of their 30s, which of the scoobies still like to party?

Dawn and Faith


Does Willow celebrate Hanakkah in a traditional way?

She does.


In the six years we knew Angel from the shows, he lost his soul twice. how many times has he lost it since?

Well, he hasn't lost it, but he did pawn it once.


Assuming the scoobies reunite for holidays, where does it happen?


The Bronze-on-the-Bay



Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 29 04:21:00 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

What makes a heist compelling?

There was a real heist where the local police knew it was happening in real
time, but didn't know in which of the several hundred possible places it
was happening. It was in the UK.

In Goldfinger, the villain's plan wasn't to steal the gold from Ft
Knox, but either to irradiate it or blow it up. The loss of the gold or its
use would drive up the value of Goldinger's stash.

In Firefox, Clint Eastwood's character was stealing a Soviet fighter
plane. In The Hunt for Red October, Sean Connery's character was
stealing a Soviet Sub. In Trumped!, Alec Baldwin's Donald Trump
steals Putin's bid for another term as Russian president!

I couldn't help myself

Still mulling heists....


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 29 02:13:00 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I would really love to see that kind of movie.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 29 00:54:22 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Steal the verdict so the defendant is freed, because ...

1) He knows where the loot is hidden

or

2) He is a master (fill-in-the-blank) who is needed by the gang to steal
the MacGuffin.


This would probably be the opening part of the story. Once the defendant is
found not guilty, the story moves on to either recovering the loot or doing
the heist. OTOH, another major character's involvement might be initiated
by the not guilty verdict. For instance ...

- An insurance investigator

- The detective who originally investigated and arrested the defendant

- A journalist who sees a bigger story

- Snow White



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 29 00:39:25 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Twelve Angry Dwarves, Jurors? Yeah, I guess it could be described that way. Instead of a traditional heist where a group/individual plans to steal something, the Twelve Angry could be described as one juror attempting to 'steal' the verdict.

I may be gone awhile an hour or two, I am having dinner with a cousin of mine tonight.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Dec 28 23:47:56 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

So it was a heist film?

WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Dec 28 23:02:09 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Movies
Question: Who played Who played
Juror Number Eight, the first to
vote "not guilty" in the 1957
courtroom drama 12 Angry Men?
Answer: Henry Fonda

Trivia Directors: wolfguard,
OldManFan!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Dec 28 21:46:31 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Hah! Now I'm
imagining Twelve Angry
Dwarves
! Who stole the canary
from the coal mine!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Dec 28 19:13:34 2017 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Thu Dec 28 19:15:38 2017
Trivia Girl,

Henry Fonda?! Damn, I thought it was one of the dwarfs. :)

ETA Oy Vey! There were only seven dwarfs! That should have cued me I was heading down the wrong mine shaft. *g*


WG



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OldManFan says:
(Thu Dec 28 17:10:53 2017 24.3.106.169)
Trivia Girl - Henry Fonda.

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Dec 28 16:04:42 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Movies
Question: Who played Who played Juror Number Eight, the first to vote "not guilty" in the 1957 courtroom drama 12 Angry Men?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Dec 28 15:33:53 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Thursday, December 28th 2017 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


b.u.m.
Mr. VT
SPiKed
Thuglife
valMichael - RIP

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to b.u.m. Mr. VT, SpiKed, Thuglife!



Xander: We just saw the zebras mating! Thank you, very exciting... Willow: It was like the Heimlich, with stripes! 'The Pack'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Dec 28 15:02:29 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay dean!


Happy CD Thursday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Dec 28 12:17:24 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for dean!

yay dean!


Happy CD Thursday!



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Maverick says:
(Thu Dec 28 05:34:44 2017 68.51.139.52)
Edited: Thu Dec 28 07:03:47 2017
Ahhh, hibernating. It went down to 4 degrees here in Michigan last night (remember freezing is 32 degrees.) I took my space heater down and put it in my garage to warm my little Ion (bless her heart.) Tonight it's supposed to go down to 2 degrees. Uggh. "It's too cold to snow," as they used to say when I was a kid which (basically, ironically) means there's no cloud cover to hold in any heat of the day. I could USE some Global Warming right about now! Haha. This is the good old-fashioned Arctic Express (which they try to make sound like a new Climate Change development by calling it a Polar Vortex.) Can't wait to see "Darkest Hour." Churchill has always been a favorite of mine (as is the actor Gary Oldman.)


Have extra time during the Christmas Vacation? Enjoy my Buffy fanfic (written mostly as scripts of the TV show) at Maverick's Home page


Here's a Link to videos of the Trans-Siberian Orchestra's performances of Christmas favorites. Especially check out the "Christmas Canon Rock" video with the two blondes (dated 12/6/2009) which is my favorite (p.s. it may be 15 rows down the page.)


Maverick


Trans-Siberian Orchestra's "Christmas Canon Rock"




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Dec 28 03:40:10 2017 209.159.255.231)
buffyrat! Good to see you. Happy that you are enjoying your granddaughters!



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buffyrat says:
(Thu Dec 28 03:19:13 2017 73.71.145.35)
just a flyby
Hi Christopher Marlowe! Hope you
had a nice Christmas. This is my
granddaughters 2nd. Hope to see her
again in June. Have a happy new
year and try to keep warm!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Dec 28 02:44:53 2017 209.159.255.231)
anyone around tonight?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Dec 28 00:13:10 2017 209.159.255.231)
Finally..temps are reaching the teens! First serious cold snap we've had this winter.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Dec 27 22:03:18 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the name of Fred's stuffed rabbit?
Answer: Feigenbaum

Trivia Bunnymaster: DaddyCatALSO!
Trivia Comedian: wolfguard!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Dec 27 21:37:54 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard More than one, as I write or have written in 4 'verses.#deadpan



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Dec 27 19:36:54 2017 71.56.125.67)
Trivia Girl,

Hugh


DaddyCatALSO,

No, Jared remains in one of the many fanverses of BtVS (see above). *g*

I had to google "John Banner". The Wikipedia article said he was performing in Switzerland when Nazi Germany took over Austria. He left for the US. In 1942 he enlisted in the US Army Air Corp and served till 1945. One of his co-workers on Hogan's Heroes said ~ John lost a lot of his family' (to the Holocaust).


WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Dec 27 17:30:28 2017 199.127.148.10)
The Statler Brothers Lyrics


"I Believe In Santa's Cause"


Never heard a snowman talking
Never seen a reindeer fly
Nor seen a wooden soldier walking
Nor met Santa eye to eye

Now there are those who don't believe
In miracles or Santa Claus
But I believe what I believe
And I believe in Santa's cause

Never heard an angel singing
Never known a Scrooge to smile
But I have heard sleigh bells ring
And light a spark in some small child

For kids and tress light up at Christmas
As well as preachers and our lawns
And light a Santa way at Christmas
I believe in Santa's cause

There's a Santa world at Christmas
Turning to the world's applause
So hang a bell for ole Saint Nick
'Cause I believe in Santa's cause

Now there are those who don't believe
In miracles or Santa Claus
But I believe what I believe
And I believe in Santa's cause



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Dec 27 16:41:36 2017 199.127.148.10)
Edited: Wed Dec 27 16:44:01 2017
,.wolfguard Christopher Marlowe
," '"If the Germans had chosen someone
else,"...."'we would have been the very best Nazis" was a Jew who survived
the Holocaust" reminds me of John Banner's quote "Schultz is not a Nazi. I see Schultz as the representative of some kind of goodness in any generation"

Have I mentioned Jared so much he's become an actual character to you folks?*g

lostinamerica Not surprisied but didn't know there was a song with that title. I just find it rolls off my keyboard nicely.

Trivia Girl Feigenbaum



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Dec 27 16:00:17 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the name of Fred's stuffed rabbit?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Dec 27 14:56:14 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Wednesday, December 27th 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Cordy
KeepingFaith
shiho
Tatuwah

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Cordy, KeepingFaith, shiho, Tatuwah!



Everyone's getting spanked but me. Willow, 'The I in Team'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Christopher Marlowe's Robot says:
(Wed Dec 27 14:33:37 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay elusio!

deadguy qod

Xander and Dawn! I can't see Willow or Buffy being online shoppers.

Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Dec 27 12:29:19 2017 24.3.106.169)
Edited: Wed Dec 27 12:29:54 2017
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for elusio!

yay elusio!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale online mall - you can do everything but hang out

which of the scoobies does all their shopping online?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Dec 27 04:49:41 2017 4.28.180.2)
Trivia Girl,

What was it Angel once said ~~ If it doesn't matter this or that just what we
do today?~~ That is a uber-paraphrase of 'advice' I believe he gave Buffy.

WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Dec 27 04:17:42 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard It was very hard to reconcile the ending. It was built up as too much? The only crumb I could take away from that is what ticked off others, the abrupt end. I had to 'fanwank' it to mean that the fight really never ends.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Dec 27 02:48:54 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

As a slayer, Buffy was always going to be facing an evil adversary, but at
least she got the satisfaction of taking down an individual Big Bad each May.
Angel faced evil institutionalized, part of the human condition. All he could
do was confront it each day and try to keep it to manageable levels. This was
one reason I hated the series' ending, Angel sacrificing his team for a short-
term dip in evil's quarterly doings.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Dec 27 02:36:01 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Both angles are
good and happened. Power
corrupting and the road to hell.

It was a really good way to go
though...W&H had been antagonists
for so long, and couldn't really
go much farther. Having the
'inmates' run the 'asylum' made
for some interesting stories.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Dec 27 02:24:05 2017 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Wed Dec 27 02:24:48 2017
Christopher Marlowe,

One gift I received was a copy of Slayers and Vampires by Gross &
Altman. Simple premise: Let the cast, writers, directors talk. And they do,
500+ pages of NAME block of text, NAME block of text. Not appealing to the
eye, but a book to dip into.

What was Wolfram & Hart's rationale for offering Angel the LA office?

I always assumed W&H reasoned power would corrupt. I still think
Damage shows that to be true. But one writer or director explained
it ...

Consider your speculation before looking. *g*

((Off the line, ~ The road to hell is paved with good intentions
~. I like that take. *g*
))


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Dec 27 02:12:41 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

~ But all I got was a coffee
maker.

LOL!


It's been over thirty-five years since I was last unemployed, but I remember
it vividly.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Dec 27 02:04:16 2017 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Wed Dec 27 02:32:39 2017
wolfguard It went well. I asked Santa for a job, but all I got was a
coffee-maker. Which is almost as good. *g*

Now I'm watching the Kennedy Center Honors. Not missing Trump, as I'm
not sure he would actually have enjoyed it had he attended.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Dec 27 01:56:11 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

One Christmas season I hope to spend in Australia. Santa in shorts is how
Christmas should be. *g* How was yours?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Dec 27 01:06:56 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard How was the
Christmas holidays for you?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Dec 27 00:09:00 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who gets resurrected in
the episode 'Some Assembly
Required'?
Answer: Daryl!

trivia Master: wolfguard
Trivia oh-so-close: notsoShyGirl!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Dec 26 23:52:33 2017 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Tue Dec 26 23:55:21 2017
Christopher Marlowe,

I was teasing another Bronzer. *g*


ETA Daryl was resurrected by his brother. I don't know his last name.


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Dec 26 21:47:40 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard, notsoShyGirl I
may have made the trivia too hard
or ambiguous!

Not quite the answer I was looking
for!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Dec 26 18:57:27 2017 71.56.125.67)
Trivia Girl,

Jared????

*g*

WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Dec 26 16:12:45 2017 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
The "perfect girl"



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Dec 26 15:57:42 2017 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Tue Dec 26 17:23:08 2017
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who gets resurrected in the episode 'Some Assembly Required'?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Dec 26 15:35:33 2017 199.127.148.10)
RIP Heather Menzies, another woman I once spent time "thinking . . . thoughts" about.

Also a bit incensed that among people we lost this year were Glenn Headley (less than a year older than I'm) Joseph Bologna, John Hillerman, Elena Verdugo (last link to t he old horror films except for child actors at Universal,) Bernie Casey, Robert Guillaume, Elsa Martinelli, Daliah Lavi, and others I feel should have had at least *some* activity in the news.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Dec 26 14:26:25 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Tuesday, December 26th 2017 C.E.

We have ONE (12) Birthdays!


SpikeNip

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to SpikeNip!



Wash: Well, I wash my hands of it. It's a hopeless case. I'll read a nice poem at the funeral. Something with imagery. Zoe: You could lock the door and keep the power-hungry maniac at bay. Wash: Oh, no, I'm starting to like this poetry idea now. Here lies my beloved Zoe, my autumn flower, somewhat less attractive now she's all corpsified and gross 'Shindig'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Dec 26 14:15:26 2017 209.159.255.231)
Maverick You're right, there should be more honesty naming bills. LIke the recent passage of the '**** the Poor' tax bill, and 'Kill the Sick and Elderly' healthcare repeal.


yay 'stina!


I think Willow, Dawn and Buffy will still party hearty!


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Dec 26 13:36:00 2017 73.58.128.92)

Merry Belated Christmas Everybody!


technically this is the start of the Christmas season so I am right on time,
which I will point out on the Christmas cards I'm sending this week :)



Comma--Happy belated birthday to your daughter, sounds like you had a
lovely celebration :)



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Dec 26 12:11:52 2017 24.3.106.169)
Edited: Tue Dec 26 12:12:23 2017
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for 'stina

yay 'stina!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

the new bronze - overlooking sunnydale bay

as they approach the end of their 30s, which of the scoobies still like to party?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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Maverick says:
(Tue Dec 26 06:00:59 2017 68.51.139.52)
Christopher Marlowe: The Naming of bills often is meant to be deceiving, such as the ACA (Affordable Care Act) and Net Neutrality, to name a few recent ones.


I've often seen estimates that the U.S. Consumer economy is the main fuel for the world's economy in terms of production AND profit. Also, that, of the U.S. Consumer purchases, Christmas purchases in very, very late November and the month of December, rather than being around 1/12th of our yearly purchases amount to approximately 40% of the yearly figure, so Baby Jesus is really an economic powerhouse.


Do you think September 11, 2001, was a date randomly selected or was it a date selected for a counterattack in a long civilizational war being waged without a lot of people understanding why? Benghazi was ALSO a 9/11 attack, unless you accept Hillary's blame-it-on-a-video-no-one's-seen smoke screen. Here's an explanation that suggests it's all part of a longer, wider war. At least understand the implications.


Maverick


It's Christmas, Baby, Please Come Home




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Dec 26 01:37:26 2017 209.159.255.231)
Maverick They seemed pretty straightforward bills, despite the funky names with both.



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Maverick says:
(Tue Dec 26 00:31:42 2017 68.51.139.52)
Edited: Tue Dec 26 00:49:44 2017
Christopher Marlowe: I think the WOOF Act AND the Creeper Act are pretty-much necessary legislation. They certainly don't hurt. BTW, passage of the Tax Reform probably gives you a 5 times better chance of finding a new job (AAMOF if it had passed prior to year-end last year, you might not have been laid off.) IT SHOULD spur economic activity (and jobs for those who want to work.) Good luck in the New Year on the job front. I forget what I recommended a while back: "What Color is Your Parachute?" AND ZipRecruiter, I believe. And paying attention to what's on your Facebook Page.


George Soros Suffers Heart Attack (on Christmas Eve - good) (and survives - not so good.) This man is evil incarnate and is no doubt aided by the devil.


Maverick


I Wonder As I Wander




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Maverick says:
(Mon Dec 25 20:45:57 2017 68.51.139.52)
Edited: Mon Dec 25 22:40:10 2017
Trivia Girl: Christmas Is Here


Merry Christmas, Bronzers


Birthday Happies to: Jesus Christ, Comma's Deidra Irene, Icelord's Pop, Algerina's The Berserker, McLatin, EarthGirl, angelnbuffy.


Comma: Let's see: computing the volume of parallel cross sections by integrating the cross-sectional area; Good thing I still know my Gazintas (per Jethro Clampett, 6 Gazinta 36 6 times). Methinks, that makes you a Great-grandfather: Congratulations for one so young. Nothing quite like the gratifying feeling of giving a wildly-appropriate present to one who deserves it. I gave a Florida dweller, who barely got missed by the damaging force but who still lost power for a week, a C Crain portable radio that has AM/FM/Shortwave and has a AC charger but also a hand-crank recharger, a solar recharger, and the secondary ability to recharge other peripheral devices.


A Famous Christmas Card, cc: Comma. Bronzers, let's pray that Jesus once again becomes the Patron and Protector of the U.S.


It's BeeeYoooteeFull. Got a White Christmas here in Michigan, so got to "shovel" (actually I have a 30-year old Toro that's occasionally temperamental but can usually be coaxed into helping ([as long as I mix some special oil with the gas.])


Maverick


Did I mention it's beeyouteefull?


Trans-Siberian Orchestra's "Christmas Eve in Sarajevo"




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Dec 25 14:14:15 2017 96.3.127.3)
Yay Carita!!!

Merry Christmas!


Happy Birthday to our Christmas Babies!

angelnbuffy
Earth Girl
The Berserker (Algerina's Husband)
IceLord's Pop
McLatin



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Dec 25 12:55:55 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for carita!

yay carita!


Merry Christmas!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Dec 25 08:18:44 2017 71.56.125.67)
Merry Christmas Bronze!


Greetings Dogmeat!


Congratulations Comma!


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Dec 25 06:25:18 2017 174.217.13.28)
White wings

I'd rather they get up to that kind
of mischief instead of taxes!



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white wings says:
(Mon Dec 25 01:26:33 2017 70.112.135.184)

Merry Christmas!



Christopher Marlowe - I kept trying to call you "Christmas". My fingers
wouldn't type "Christopher" at first. *g* Safe journey!

p.s. I looked up the WOOF act. So politicians are as weird as everyone else
when coming up with titles!

Comma - A good day and an enduring accomplishment! Congratulations!



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Comma says:
(Mon Dec 25 01:21:53 2017 75.143.154.113)
Went over to my daughter's house tonight. A few weeks ago her coffee maker died, so I order her a coffee maker that does whole pots or K-Cups. Tonight, for her birthday, I gave her a collection of 96 K-Cups and a coffee cup. She will be happy for a while.

For dinner tonight she made a chicken casserole from my Mother's old recipe. My son baked her a red velvet cake also made from a old recipe from my Mother. My parents were married 82 years ago tomorrow.

On to Christmas tomorrow.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 24 23:06:05 2017 174.217.24.9)
Merry Christmas Eve everyone at my.
Moms house tonight!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 24 20:04:04 2017 209.159.255.231)
Comma What a happy Birthday!



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Comma says:
(Sun Dec 24 18:33:43 2017 75.143.154.113)
On this date, 41 years ago, our daughter Deidre Irene, at 10 pounds 8 ounces, came into the world. She was born at the old Fort Campbell Hospital on the Kentucky side. She is now the mother of five and the grandmother of one. Happy Birthday pumpkin!

Dad



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Dec 24 15:25:16 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Sunday, December 24th 2017 C.E.
Christmas Eve!

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


NicNac
Orit
Sockies
Strigoi

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to NicNac, Orit, Sockies, Strigoi!



hat's the thrill of living in the Hellmouth! There's a veritable cornucopia of fiends and devils and ghouls to engage ... Pardon me for finding the glass half-full. Giles, 'Witch'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 24 14:52:28 2017 209.159.255.231)
good morning beta!



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Dec 24 13:43:13 2017 73.58.128.92)
DaddyCatALSO--Mele Kalikimaka back at you! That's one of my
husband's favorite Bing Crosby songs :)


Agent Cooper--Saw Star Wars:The Last Jedi last night, thought it
was good but no Rogue One :(



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 24 05:44:12 2017 209.159.255.231)
I wound up on a site that lists bills currently introduced into Congress. I learned about the WOOF Act and the CREEPER Act. Wow.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 23 23:07:55 2017 209.159.255.231)
Good afternoon everyone!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Dec 23 16:52:09 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Saturday, December 23rd 2017 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Barnabas
she who cannot be named
WolfByte

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Barnabas, she who cannot be named, WolfByte!



You're not gonna jokey-rhyme your way out of this one. Willow, 'Pangs'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 23 14:45:06 2017 209.159.255.231)
Good morning Dogmeat!



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Dogmeat says:
(Sat Dec 23 01:57:14 2017 74.101.48.2)
Edited: Sat Dec 23 02:03:26 2017



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 23 01:32:19 2017 209.159.255.231)
DaddyCatALSO Hawaaiian for
'Merry Christmas'? Cool!



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Dec 23 00:27:38 2017 4.28.180.2)
Maverick,

Yours, ...Revisionist history...

I'm not able to access email and am missing before this line. Off memory, I'm
speculating you're comment above refers to my comments on how some
particulates reflect sunlight and some do not?

Of more importance, several times you reference "the 30s". Is this referencing
a time period? If so, please write out the entire number. I don't know which
decade, century, millennium, something else you're meaning.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 22 23:55:29 2017 4.28.180.2)
Maverick,

Oops. Just came upon the climate stuff. Don't know if I'll get to it tonight.

Time to let others can add content to the board. *g*

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 22 23:37:30 2017 4.28.180.2)
Maverick,

One more time, this one on "current college graduates". I know a few from 2014
and at least one finishing up a degree now. I regularly talk with 20-
something's. Politics is not something most are interested in. It's mostly
work, life, near-future plans. Some discuss pursuing different careers.

Of those who talked presidential politics, only three were Bernie supporters.
One is not a "current" graduate. He's an accountant and owns a small business
on the side. Another never got to college. He had the grades for a HOPE
scholarship (state sponsored), but his parents had never paid their taxes - so
no college. He's a bartender and was a strong supporter of Bernie. The last
supported Hilary in 2008 and voted Obama both elections. She's now a principal
in private start-up.

Of course, these are all anecdotes and we know the plural of anecdote is not
data.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 22 23:09:54 2017 4.28.180.2)
Maverick,

As before, but this time the economics section.

Keynes was not a Marxist and was too much of a bon vivant to be a good
socialist (he made a fortune on the stock market). Though not his only
major economic insight, it was his reasoning that markets could fail to
self-regulate that lead him to recommending government spending as a
possible cure to recessions and depressions. If one cannot explain why he
reasoned this, then they do not have intellectual credibility to argue
against it.1

The Chicago School was not "the real influence on economic thought". It was
a major influence in the latter half of the 20th century. Following the
2008 financial crash and Great Recession it has lost its luster.

I would agree that burdening the productive sector is probably not
in a country's best interest.2 OTOH, the productive sector is
not always the private sector. What is more in line with history is that
the public and private sector are almost always intertwined. The problem
for historians and policy-makers is figuring out which intertwinings best
serve the public interest.

The generational booms in US economic history, at least since ~mid 19th
century, have arose out of technological innovations. What factors lie
behind these?


1 If one doesn't know the thought underlying a conclusion but
argue against it, then they are acting on faith.


2 Is GDP a valid measurement of a country's economic well-being?
How does economic well-being affect other goals a society seeks?


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 22 22:15:16 2017 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Fri Dec 22 22:16:47 2017
Maverick,

As before, but this time at IR section. There are IR academics who study
Marxism and/or Socialism (there are differences in the two that matter), There
are academics who are socialist or view things through socialist glasses (as
there are academics who do so through other ideological glasses). That said,
IR academics have a broader range of interests than these two topics.

Have I ever did a calculation? Literally from primary sources? No. Do I 'know'
the estimates offered by scholars and academics? Yes. Can we trust these
folks?!?

Here's one for you. From around 1775-1975 four wars accounted for half of all
deaths lost in wars during this time range. Which wars were these?


WG


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